Does that mean that TPAB, UU and MM are trash?

Because if we're going by your logic where non-charting recent albums mean that you're trash now, it kind of does

His style of rap has aged out. That s*** is only impressive in freestyles/battle raps. No casual mainstream rap fan will care to listen and keep revisiting an album filled with raps like that. 20+ years ago, yes, but not today.

Rap fans today prioritize listening to s*** they enjoy before anything else lol. That's why there are so many rappers who are technically lacking the skill of rap but who manage to find a place for themselves in the mainstream market because they make enjoyable music.

You can squeeze in all the bars you want over the hardest beats. If it doesn't sound good/isn't compelling enough for people to enjoy listening to it in settings other than just a dark room with a single lit lamp, it won't move people. That's where rap is today and Eminem will never accept that because he's still stuck in the 80s/90s so he continues to show zero evolution whatsoever.

Did you read the interview?

1. It is an objective fact that he has more current appeal than 90 percent of current rappers based on streams and views.

2. Eminem was on grown man, positivity/let's fight addiction/our demons when Jay Z wss still talking aboit Euros and the illuminati. Matter of gact, Jay Z was talking about trite, exploitative and capitalist nonsense until 444

Your argument is rendered moot by the fact that his last two albums are platinum and have billions of streams

His albums do well upon release but fall off the Billboard 200 after a few months. MTBMB lasted a bit longer before falling off only because he released a side B that served as a whole other album. That gave it a few months of longevity it wouldn't have had otherwise.

It doesn't mean they're trash, it just means people don't care to revisit them as much as they care to revisit GKMC.

I don't agree. I think it just means that it's their most mainstream work.

Got most rappers, it's usually their earliest records/most popular s***.

Damn he really went 0/4

My man put out a whole (trash) album about politics, but niggas still want to claim that he doesnt talk about serious topics.

Meanwhile Jay Z makes 10 albums about fictitious crack sales and his money and niggas think it's the holy grail

There’s no way you genuinely believe that Eminem’s current music has more appeal and relevancy than 90% of rappers

That's where you're wrong. Eminem has zero appeal with the current generation of rap fans. His music still streams well because he still has a lot of dedicated listeners who, like all other rap fans, made the transition to streaming. That's all there is to it.

That's why he drops an album, debuts high and a week later, no one gives a f*** about the album anymore. Even if he wasn't doing numbers anymore but was still driving debate/discussion with his music, THEN you'd be able to make that argument but once people stop caring about discussing your music then they've stopped caring about you on a mainstream level.

He's like Taylor Swift in the regard that he'll always have loyal supporters who listen to whatever he puts out even if the majority of the general public don't show support.

This.

He’s a legacy act at this point; he’s always gonna have millions upon millions of streams.

That doesn’t mean he’s still culturally relevant.

Don’t get why this concept is so hard for that guy to grasp

This isn't something to argue. The only rappers doing better streams/views are Youngboy, Drake, Bunny and like 5 other niggas.

Don't just be saying s*** because you think it's right, Google it. Look for facts.

The difference is, all of those people you named are 100 PERCENT more relevant culturally and musically than Eminem in 2022

Drake and Bad Bunny drop an album, it’s on the Top 10 for months and gets discussed for years until the next one drops.

No one is discussing any recent Eminem album and you’re wrong if you think people are

Despite what you might believe, numbers aren't everything lol. If Drake did massive numbers but no one ever discussed his music (past/present) or if the music he dropped had zero impact and was forgetten about months later, he'd be in big trouble because that meant the general public was over him.

Drake still has people discussing songs/albums from 10+ years ago. Every other day, it's a viral tweet about this Drake song or that Drake album. People still care because he's still making music they think is compelling and worth having conversations about.

Eminem has none of that. None. He drops his music, does his numbers, people call it wack and it's rinse and repeat and it's been that way for years now. At least he was still scoring hits from like 2010-2014. He can't say that now.

THIS.

100 PERCENT THIS.

Couldn’t have worded it any better myself

We can agree to disagree.

Em doesn’t care about making the best music, but he wants to be the best rapper.

That sort of mindset is why people will never consider him the best. Because it doesn’t f***ing matter how many syllables he can rhyme or how many crazy flows he can do, none of that matters if the music itself is subpar, and a majority of his music has been for a long time.

The music gotta be as good as the rapping if he wants to be considered the best of them all.

I don’t even like CLB but there are still people discussing whether that album is good or bad to this day.

And after he dropped HN he had the whole hip hop world discussing house music and its’ roots in Black culture for months until Renaissance dropped and the conversation continued with that album.

CULTURAL RELEVANCE =/= NUMBERS

1. That's how most albums do on the charts if you're not Drake or Bad Bunny.

Do you think Jay Z albums spend months in the top 10? Nas?

Do you want us to compare their staying ppwer on the charts?

The difference is 4:44 came out in 2017 and is still heavily discussed amongst hip hop fans.

Music to Be Murdered By came out in 2020 and almost no one talks about it anymore

It's like how you can look at the Billboard 200 and see 30-40 year old albums still charting lol. If those acts are still around now, they can announce a tour and sell it out in a day because they've got an audience they've built over decades who will continue to show support as long as they're alive. It doesn't mean the kids of today f*** with their music lol.

Elton John has the third highest grossing tour this year, according to this guy’s logic that must mean Elton John is the 3rd most relevant musician in today’s world

Links?
Proof?
Anything tangible evidence other than your own delusions?

The proof is I’m a hip hop fan and I engage in discussions / discourse regarding hip-hop almost every single day of my life.

4:44 still gets talked about here and there from time to time.

Eminem’s newer albums do not get discussed whatsoever.

And I’m not just talking about discourse that I myself engage in, I’m talking about the discourse that I see hip hop fans in general engage in on a daily basis.

You’re actually a fool if you think that Eminem is even half as culturally relevant as someone like Drake or Bad Bunny in 2022