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  • I dont think any eminem fan is smart enough to out this together with AI but some parts do sound sus

  • Hook is a bit awkward but verses sound like Till I Collapse Em

  • this is definitely not a.i lol

    But idk cause I remember that Suge Shot Me thing on Makaveli was a conspiracy theory lmfao

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    GodzillaMinusOne

    Beat is hard in the most 2000's way possible

    the beat and how its structure and creatively used like the dropout and repeats is what convinces me the most

  • Jan 13
    SyIIabIes

    Juice is easy to do ai tho

    any voice is easy

    getting it down right including all the little behavioral characteristics is the hard part that still hasnt been done - or at least hasnt been exposed publically

    not even kanye and carti can get it exact for themselves, so far

  • The goat

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    Water Giver

    the beat and how its structure and creatively used like the dropout and repeats is what convinces me the most

    Hook only thing that gives me pause but Em has always given a lot of praise to the greats

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    GodzillaMinusOne

    Hook only thing that gives me pause but Em has always given a lot of praise to the greats

    this wouldnt be the first time he's immitaded or given homage to pac and it makes ense for a rough cut or early diss song concept

    lets not forget he was close with pacs mom and always gave respects and thats why he was allowed to do loyal to the game just a year or two later (if this track is going off of my speculation of it i mention on page 1)

    and em and his crew have always talked mad s*** to suge - proof even said it to suges face and their crews got into a squabble over it. it was at a club or awards show iirc.

  • Jan 14
    Water Giver

    this wouldnt be the first time he's immitaded or given homage to pac and it makes ense for a rough cut or early diss song concept

    lets not forget he was close with pacs mom and always gave respects and thats why he was allowed to do loyal to the game just a year or two later (if this track is going off of my speculation of it i mention on page 1)

    and em and his crew have always talked mad s*** to suge - proof even said it to suges face and their crews got into a squabble over it. it was at a club or awards show iirc.

    Nah that Hail Mary diss to ja and the hit em up diss to everlast

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    wow s*** insane how one day he woke up and just lost his ability to do this

  • Jan 14

    this light but of course you know whatever Em does got the c***gas.

  • This clearly not a.i

  • This is 100 percent not AI

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    TES era Em flow is something else

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    I went through my whole career without ever mentioning suge

    So that was a lie

  • Compare this with the other diss tracks towards Ja at the time and you’ll realise this is real. Too much to fake via AI and there’s zero weird artifacts

  • BMZ

    yeah bit mental. wouldnt have second guessed it being real or not a couple years ago.

    Also a bit sus all of these songs leak around the time a large amount of em fans had started a community of trying to create realistic sounding AI snippets.

    I haven’t heard this one yet

    But from the leaks I heard, there’s no way these European em fans are this talented with the pen lol

  • Water Giver

    it would be a bunch of shut-in em fans with all the time in the world to be the ones that fully master AI and able to do every idiosynchronicity of their artist LMAO

    either them, drake fans or juice wrld fans will be the ones desperate and big enough of a community to do it

    I just think em fans are too out of touch to really get his idiosyncrasies fully, like they would have to listen to other rappers a little bit

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    What year was this recorded?

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    Water Giver

    there is word that em recorded other diss songs, and he was gonna release s*** way earlier but 50 recorded automatic gunfire (the mixtape right before grodt like a year or less right before) in just 2 days so he held off till later

    em thot he and ja was cool (em n ja actually talked about the 50 situation in person and they smoked together so em thot they bonded and had an understanding of patching everything up) until ja randomly mentioned hailey in his first full diss to 50 that also included em that made em mad and confused, and what brought em into the beef with ja and what made em n dre let 50 fully able to do whatever he wants

    ja killed himself pretty much by doing that

    people forget the reason he disses suge is because him and murder inc linked up publicly and allegedly they had plans to start something together i forget what it was

  • he was going at 2000s death row records on this and they were trying to put real pressure on em and aftermath during this time

    that’s why dre got punched at the vibe awards in 2004 and g unit stabbed the guy

    sometime in the early 2000s when em and 50 and dre went on vacation to hawaii, suge sent goons after them but i’m not sure if they ever encountered each other

    he sent goons to intimidate em at the source awards and surround him

    he went to the in da club video shoot with goons iirc

  • seems like he redirected his suspicions rightfully so at diddy about pacs death but i think the allegation that suge got biggie killed holds up

  • necromancer

    What year was this recorded?

    early 2003 i think

  • SweJab

    But what do yall think of it!? AI or not

    All real

  • Water Giver

    em and proof both mentioned things like this even way back

    proof said it to suges face