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  • Mar 10
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    Deep state got to him

  • Mar 10
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    Ronin

    Deep state got to him

    What did he do to oppose the deep state? Seemed like he was all talk and no action.

  • Didn't he say this in 2009?

  • Believe it when I see it

  • still 4 years

  • Mar 10
    JaeRell

    What did he do to oppose the deep state? Seemed like he was all talk and no action.

    Allied with the Gulenists to clear Kemalists out of the military and reduce the power of the military and then purged the Gulenists in the 2016 coup attempt

  • Mar 10

    Civil war

  • Mar 10
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    Ronin

    Deep state got to him

    Turkey has a deep state?

  • Mar 10
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    Kratos

    Turkey has a deep state?

  • teku izing

    In the West they tell us Erdogan runs that s***

  • Mar 10
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    Kratos

    Turkey has a deep state?

    Yep “deep state” as a term, if not a concept, originates in Turkey

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_state_in_Turkey

    Basically it is nationalist, secularist, and “liberal”. My impression is that it has largely been dismantled/co-opted by Erdogan seeing as he hasn’t faced any serious resistance from the military and has also been able to handicap his opponents

  • Mar 10
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    Ronin

    Yep “deep state” as a term, if not a concept, originates in Turkey

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_state_in_Turkey

    Basically it is nationalist, secularist, and “liberal”. My impression is that it has largely been dismantled/co-opted by Erdogan seeing as he hasn’t faced any serious resistance from the military and has also been able to handicap his opponents

    My understanding is that the term originates with Curtis Yarvin in the US, circa mid 2000s

  • Enes 🧿
    Mar 10
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    So i cant go to turkey for vacation no more when hes retired smh
    Recep abi baskan tesekkürler ya
    Turkish germans gonna miss you sir thats 4 sure

  • Mar 10
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    Kratos

    My understanding is that the term originates with Curtis Yarvin in the US, circa mid 2000s

    Idk who first applied it to the US context but it definitely comes from Turkey

  • Kratos

    Turkey has a deep state?

    Turkey is where the term deep state originated

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susurluk_scandal

  • Ronin

    Idk who first applied it to the US context but it definitely comes from Turkey

    Mainly Peter Dale Scott, who had been theorizing about the concept since the 70s. He didn’t actually start to use that term until later. I believe he picked it up from Ola Tunander after he began applying it to Turkey

  • Good. Hopefully Turkey will be safer for leftists then

  • Purrp 🌚
    Mar 24
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    WhT do you think of this? @xxxkiraxxx

  • It’s so over..

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    Purrp

    WhT do you think of this? @xxxkiraxxx

    That mf has been sick since idk when I don’t think he’s capping here I’m glad he’s finally retiring but he still got 4 years of his presidency left lol. His s*** should’ve ended in 2014 or 2019 minimum. Now when it comes to potential candidates it doesn’t look good rn, you will either get an offspring wasteman of Erdogan’s party or some liberal dumbfuck who will need to appeal to the anti-immigrant / anti-arab crowd to get votes

  • Mar 25
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    xxxkiraxxx
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    That mf has been sick since idk when I don’t think he’s capping here I’m glad he’s finally retiring but he still got 4 years of his presidency left lol. His s*** should’ve ended in 2014 or 2019 minimum. Now when it comes to potential candidates it doesn’t look good rn, you will either get an offspring wasteman of Erdogan’s party or some liberal dumbfuck who will need to appeal to the anti-immigrant / anti-arab crowd to get votes

    reading this I realized that whoevers next up once Putin retires is gonna be the most insufferable libtard this planet has ever f***ing seen

  • Mar 25
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    xxxkiraxxx

    That mf has been sick since idk when I don’t think he’s capping here I’m glad he’s finally retiring but he still got 4 years of his presidency left lol. His s*** should’ve ended in 2014 or 2019 minimum. Now when it comes to potential candidates it doesn’t look good rn, you will either get an offspring wasteman of Erdogan’s party or some liberal dumbfuck who will need to appeal to the anti-immigrant / anti-arab crowd to get votes

    Is Imamoglu not a decent option, I’m not familiar with his politics I just remember the story when he got arrested before the previous elections

  • WRU

    reading this I realized that whoevers next up once Putin retires is gonna be the most insufferable libtard this planet has ever f***ing seen

    The one who replaces him is chosen by Putin so doubt that