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  • May 31, 2021
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    drjdeponytail

    Dude seems destined to pull a Ricky Williams sooner than later

    Real talk Ricky Williams seemed very true to himself during that existential crisis/self discovery stint. Kyrie seems like he does a lot of that s*** for attention one way or another. Like Kyrie would "disappear" then be seen on Skype, so clearly everyone would be like but Ricky would take that s*** to another level and end up in India

  • rvi

    btw youre close but its actually 67-71

    Its close, either works

  • rvi 🦜
    May 31, 2021
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    Elric

    i was being kinda hyperbolic when i said it s***s on 71 but now that im home looking at my library i agree with myself. of course there was more variety in 71 as the core genres expanded but i care more about what exactly my goats were releasing.

    either hitting or nearing their zenith in 66;

    dylan
    beatles
    stones
    hendrix
    beach boys
    kinks
    byrds/gene
    velvets
    yardbirds
    love
    who
    them
    smol faces
    animals
    brummels
    s&g
    tina turner/phil spector
    elevators
    doors
    airplane
    springfield/neil
    otis
    smokey
    marvin
    temptations
    supremes
    four tops
    james brown
    wilson pickett

    versus

    allmans
    t. rex
    rod
    faust
    bowie
    p-funk
    sabbath
    lennon/mccartney
    leonard
    marley
    beach boys
    can
    sly
    marvin
    zep

    this is ignoring all the psych nuggets of '66 too. dont know why youre surprised i think this considering the psych era was over by '71 (and my distaste for 70s soul). '66 had twice as many goats peaking as '71.

    mm feel like youre reaching a little bit with some of this including Stones for 66 not 71? including stuff based on recording date like Velvets, Doors, Airplane (debut is fine but still). Beau Brummels in 66 with their covers album and 2 random singles? I like Who 66 a lot but feel like 71 is certainly better. Neil/Buffalo with a decent debut and an all time classic song but,,,idk, & unless by "nearing zenith in 66" you mean that they hit a zenith in 67 which is totally cheating

    for 71:
    lot of those 66 goat artists were still going with great stuff: Beach Boys, Kinks, Gene, Doors, Van, soul/funk artists like Curtis, Marvin, James Brown,

    all the prog goats of Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Tull, Floyd. Plus all the underground stuff and of course the peripheral scenes like Kraut and Canterbury, avant garde s*** too

    yes peak era psych was over but still a lot of great stuff when you take into account prog+psych and hard+psych fusion. and other non-US/UK stuff

    peak hard rock including Zep, Deep Purple, Sabbath, Heep,

    lots of blues/southern rock

    jazz definitely worth a strong mention with fusion/jazzrock/spiritual type stuff: Miles was great as ever, Mahavishnu, Herbie, Pharoah Sanders,Alice Coltrane, lot of cacs

    glam like you mentioned

    lot of good singer/songwriter, some of which you mentioned even if I'm not into all of it like Joni, Leonard. random folk s*** like Comus

    seems like non-US/UK scenes were getting more into full swing in general like France, Brazil, Japan, Germany, british folk

    seems pretty strong for blues and country in general

  • rvi 🦜
    May 31, 2021
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    just feel like 1971 was more fruitful and deeper like I mentioned. Surely it can be agreed that 1967 was really the explosion in many respect even though 1966 was great, and 1971 was still continuing that with everything that was going on

    66 is great but still feel like its part of the increasing up to the absolute god tier years of 67-68-69. instead of being on their level

  • rvi 🦜
    Jun 1, 2021
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    also obligatory mention that you left out Zappa legendary debut in 66, although 1971 was his worst year before the 80s hit

  • Jun 1, 2021
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    Koala

    Real talk Ricky Williams seemed very true to himself during that existential crisis/self discovery stint. Kyrie seems like he does a lot of that s*** for attention one way or another. Like Kyrie would "disappear" then be seen on Skype, so clearly everyone would be like but Ricky would take that s*** to another level and end up in India

    Yeah it wouldn’t surprise me if it was partly an act with Kyrie

  • Jun 1, 2021
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    drjdeponytail

    Yeah it wouldn’t surprise me if it was partly an act with Kyrie

    DK is 60's dust, RVI is that 70's show, and your de 80's mon.. So I gotta ask you, The Rolling Stones 'Dirty Work'.. Underrated joint ? :mystery:

  • Jun 1, 2021
    rvi

    also obligatory mention that you left out Zappa legendary debut in 66, although 1971 was his worst year before the 80s hit

    didn't have to tell you that one

  • Jun 1, 2021
    rvi

    mm feel like youre reaching a little bit with some of this including Stones for 66 not 71? including stuff based on recording date like Velvets, Doors, Airplane (debut is fine but still). Beau Brummels in 66 with their covers album and 2 random singles? I like Who 66 a lot but feel like 71 is certainly better. Neil/Buffalo with a decent debut and an all time classic song but,,,idk, & unless by "nearing zenith in 66" you mean that they hit a zenith in 67 which is totally cheating

    for 71:
    lot of those 66 goat artists were still going with great stuff: Beach Boys, Kinks, Gene, Doors, Van, soul/funk artists like Curtis, Marvin, James Brown,

    all the prog goats of Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Tull, Floyd. Plus all the underground stuff and of course the peripheral scenes like Kraut and Canterbury, avant garde s*** too

    yes peak era psych was over but still a lot of great stuff when you take into account prog+psych and hard+psych fusion. and other non-US/UK stuff

    peak hard rock including Zep, Deep Purple, Sabbath, Heep,

    lots of blues/southern rock

    jazz definitely worth a strong mention with fusion/jazzrock/spiritual type stuff: Miles was great as ever, Mahavishnu, Herbie, Pharoah Sanders,Alice Coltrane, lot of cacs

    glam like you mentioned

    lot of good singer/songwriter, some of which you mentioned even if I'm not into all of it like Joni, Leonard. random folk s*** like Comus

    seems like non-US/UK scenes were getting more into full swing in general like France, Brazil, Japan, Germany, british folk

    seems pretty strong for blues and country in general

    Ahh I was thinking Sticky Fingers was 70

    Yeah some of them were better in 71 but still goat in 66. I f***ing adore those Brummels singles.

  • Jun 1, 2021
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    rvi

    mm feel like youre reaching a little bit with some of this including Stones for 66 not 71? including stuff based on recording date like Velvets, Doors, Airplane (debut is fine but still). Beau Brummels in 66 with their covers album and 2 random singles? I like Who 66 a lot but feel like 71 is certainly better. Neil/Buffalo with a decent debut and an all time classic song but,,,idk, & unless by "nearing zenith in 66" you mean that they hit a zenith in 67 which is totally cheating

    for 71:
    lot of those 66 goat artists were still going with great stuff: Beach Boys, Kinks, Gene, Doors, Van, soul/funk artists like Curtis, Marvin, James Brown,

    all the prog goats of Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Tull, Floyd. Plus all the underground stuff and of course the peripheral scenes like Kraut and Canterbury, avant garde s*** too

    yes peak era psych was over but still a lot of great stuff when you take into account prog+psych and hard+psych fusion. and other non-US/UK stuff

    peak hard rock including Zep, Deep Purple, Sabbath, Heep,

    lots of blues/southern rock

    jazz definitely worth a strong mention with fusion/jazzrock/spiritual type stuff: Miles was great as ever, Mahavishnu, Herbie, Pharoah Sanders,Alice Coltrane, lot of cacs

    glam like you mentioned

    lot of good singer/songwriter, some of which you mentioned even if I'm not into all of it like Joni, Leonard. random folk s*** like Comus

    seems like non-US/UK scenes were getting more into full swing in general like France, Brazil, Japan, Germany, british folk

    seems pretty strong for blues and country in general

    What did Neil release in 71? Cause I love his songs on the Springfield debut

  • rvi 🦜
    Jun 1, 2021
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    Elric

    What did Neil release in 71? Cause I love his songs on the Springfield debut

    absolutely nothing but i was saying it more in terms of questioning inclusion for 66. buffalo debut is like a solid 7/10 for me :dno:

  • Jun 1, 2021
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    rvi

    absolutely nothing but i was saying it more in terms of questioning inclusion for 66. buffalo debut is like a solid 7/10 for me :dno:

    Velvets had singles out in '66 btw we been over that

    I don't go off recording date and the only might be pushing is Doors but I thought their first single was 66

  • rvi 🦜
    Jun 1, 2021
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    Elric

    Velvets had singles out in '66 btw we been over that

    I don't go off recording date and the only might be pushing is Doors but I thought their first single was 66

    ah yeah forgot

    and Doors album was january 4 1967 so its barely even pushing it tbh

    btw I'm very glad I skipped ahead to Kinks Sleepwalker, Dave Davies absolutely snapped on this one

  • Jun 1, 2021
    Koala

    DK is 60's dust, RVI is that 70's show, and your de 80's mon.. So I gotta ask you, The Rolling Stones 'Dirty Work'.. Underrated joint ? :mystery:

    :mystery:

  • rvi 🦜
    Jun 1, 2021
    Koala

    DK is 60's dust, RVI is that 70's show, and your de 80's mon.. So I gotta ask you, The Rolling Stones 'Dirty Work'.. Underrated joint ? :mystery:

    i havent even heard that one yet ngl

  • Jun 1, 2021
    Koala

    DK is 60's dust, RVI is that 70's show, and your de 80's mon.. So I gotta ask you, The Rolling Stones 'Dirty Work'.. Underrated joint ? :mystery:

    I'm also 50's

    This the best 80s stones I've heard

  • Jun 1, 2021
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    rvi

    ah yeah forgot

    and Doors album was january 4 1967 so its barely even pushing it tbh

    btw I'm very glad I skipped ahead to Kinks Sleepwalker, Dave Davies absolutely snapped on this one

    Hendrix first single compared to no Hendrix? surprised that's not enough to at least give you pause

    Compounded by what you said about Zappa thats your two goats not even really contributing to 71

  • Jun 1, 2021
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    rvi

    ah yeah forgot

    and Doors album was january 4 1967 so its barely even pushing it tbh

    btw I'm very glad I skipped ahead to Kinks Sleepwalker, Dave Davies absolutely snapped on this one

    Doors didn't have a single out before the album? seems really weird for the time

  • rvi 🦜
    Jun 1, 2021
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    Elric

    Doors didn't have a single out before the album? seems really weird for the time

    cant find a date but it seems like it was released at the same time

  • rvi 🦜
    Jun 1, 2021
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    Elric

    Hendrix first single compared to no Hendrix? surprised that's not enough to at least give you pause

    Compounded by what you said about Zappa thats your two goats not even really contributing to 71

    yeah, considering that Hey Joe is easily one of his most overrated songs to me and im never really reaching for it. Stone Free is of course amazing though. certainly not enough to give me pause for that alone. and this is cheating but definitely a few decent Jimi songs on the 2 posthumous albums released in 71, if you combined the best of both removing the nonsense itd be a solid 8/10

    speaking of 71 btw i kinda need you to start stanning canterbury with me, ik you already like some but its one style thats just continued to grow and grow on me. plus the fact that its extremely british and has significant psych remnants too

  • Jun 1, 2021
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    Damaged is 40 this year

  • Jun 1, 2021
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    rvi

    yeah, considering that Hey Joe is easily one of his most overrated songs to me and im never really reaching for it. Stone Free is of course amazing though. certainly not enough to give me pause for that alone. and this is cheating but definitely a few decent Jimi songs on the 2 posthumous albums released in 71, if you combined the best of both removing the nonsense itd be a solid 8/10

    speaking of 71 btw i kinda need you to start stanning canterbury with me, ik you already like some but its one style thats just continued to grow and grow on me. plus the fact that its extremely british and has significant psych remnants too

    Does it not matter that I put Wyatt's Rock Bottom in the most rarified air lol? I like the scene decently, been meaning to move on with Carava

    And yeah that's super cheating

  • Jun 1, 2021

    Hey Joe is a mastapiece

  • Jun 1, 2021
    rvi

    cant find a date but it seems like it was released at the same time

    Rare

  • Jun 1, 2021
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    @rise_zero @RASIE could you imagine