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  • rvi 🦤
    Oct 24, 2021
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    Galaxy de list mon

    Amnesiac the zenith

    scaruffi's most praised one too iirc.. really makes u think

  • Oct 24, 2021
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    rvi

    scaruffi's most praised one too iirc.. really makes u think

    i've always loved Amnesiac and Kid A the most

  • rvi 🦤
    Oct 24, 2021
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    Galaxy de list mon

    i've always loved Amnesiac and Kid A the most

    wait you love Kid A? why were you celebrating it dropping then

  • RASIE 🎣
    Oct 24, 2021
    Galaxy de list mon

    jokes aside, both OK Computer and Kid A dropping from 3 to 21 in both their respective decades is a nice indicator of the greatness of FAM

  • Oct 24, 2021
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    rvi

    wait you love Kid A? why were you celebrating it dropping then

    loved the most. It didn't make my list but it's their second best and I don't think it deserves anywhere near top 5.
    21st is also too high

  • RASIE 🎣
    Oct 24, 2021
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    Galaxy de list mon

    extra 100 dollar tier for the right to move 5 albums around to your choosing regardless of results

    Will unironically pay for this

  • RASIE

    Will unironically pay for this

    the real dilemma is when multiple people put their top 5 at the top and the entire list is just 1-10 and makes the other tiers irreleveant

  • rvi 🦤
    Oct 24, 2021
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    Galaxy de list mon

    loved the most. It didn't make my list but it's their second best and I don't think it deserves anywhere near top 5.
    21st is also too high

    well yeah tbh i agree with 21st being too high for kid a, not even my 2nd fav from them . ok computer on the other hand tho...

  • rvi

    well yeah tbh i agree with 21st being too high for kid a, not even my 2nd fav from them . ok computer on the other hand tho...

    OK Computer always had a great first half to me. Quite shaky after Karma Police. Almost on par with Kid A, but 90s is much stronger than 00s and had no chance of making my final list

  • Oct 24, 2021
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    Dune still giving it to Lynch tbh

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    re-read scaruffis Kid a and amnesaic reviews and it always makes me laugh how he s***s on Kid A the whole time and highly praises Amnesiac and calls Amnesiac what Kid A thought it was doing. Final ratings:
    Kid A 6.5/10
    Amnesiac 7/10

  • Oct 24, 2021
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    Elric

    Dune still giving it to Lynch tbh

    that's what I wanted to hear

  • rvi 🦤
    Oct 24, 2021
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    Galaxy de list mon

    re-read scaruffis Kid a and amnesaic reviews and it always makes me laugh how he s***s on Kid A the whole time and highly praises Amnesiac and calls Amnesiac what Kid A thought it was doing. Final ratings:
    Kid A 6.5/10
    Amnesiac 7/10

    always love the scaruffi pages where he simultaneously s***s on something and gives it lavish praise

    if you took out like 3 sentences from what he says about OK Computer then it would read like a different person's 9.5/10 review

    "It was, more properly, a new link in the chain of production artifices that changed the way pop music "sounds": the Beatles' Sgt Pepper, Pink Floyd's Dark Side Of The Moon, Fleetwood Mac's Tusk, Michael Jackson's Thriller." damn piero

  • rvi

    always love the scaruffi pages where he simultaneously s***s on something and gives it lavish praise

    if you took out like 3 sentences from what he says about OK Computer then it would read like a different person's 9.5/10 review

    "It was, more properly, a new link in the chain of production artifices that changed the way pop music "sounds": the Beatles' Sgt Pepper, Pink Floyd's Dark Side Of The Moon, Fleetwood Mac's Tusk, Michael Jackson's Thriller." damn piero

  • RASIE 🎣
    Oct 24, 2021
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    rvi

    scaruffi's spectre looms large

    amnesiac a poor choice anyway

    Tbh scaruffi's scores/rankings haven't held any value to me for a while now. I mean the love for his music pages definitely began with an unavoidable influence over my own rankings/taste, like any other group's infatuation with notable ranked lists — like RYM for the self-identified music nerds, Rolling Stone's top 500 for boomers, or Billboard charts for Drake and Adele stans.

    For the past few years i've still really enjoyed the albums and artists his site exposed me to, and still rank many of them among my favorites, but I've since changed my own taste and opinions on his. A lot of his artist pages that i used to think of as flawless, i now very much disagree with, even though i still adore a lot of the artists.

    His writing (more accurately, his interns/superfans' writing) has nosedived since the first half of the 2010s — and I also don't find as much value in a lot of his more detailed, self-written stuff as I once did. In the rare times I go back on his site now and read an old page I used to love, it's frequently clear to me that the most valuable thing I find in them comes from his references to other similar/obscure artists, and little historical facts or events that went overlooked. His artist pages are really like the ultimate version of Pandora Radio, and being able to use that at the expense of glorifying his elitism (and cringing at that later on) isn't a bad trade.

    His film section used to be something i browsed a lot and thought highly of too, but that was the first thing on his site I did a 180 on a good while ago. That also probaly helped a lot in changing my perspective on his music scores and rankings a lot too.

    I still love his extremely "high standards" scoring system, and still think its super refreshing since the systems used in popular music journalism are still sprinting headlong in the opposite direction.

    And i'm never gonna act as if I don't think albums such as The Good Son, Down Colorful Hill, Perfect from Now On, Morphine's discog, VU&N and WL/WH, etc... aren't some of the greatest albums ever made. But nowadays I can say that I don't enjoy those (or tons of other) albums/artist because of the scores Scaruffi gave them — but I do enjoy them because of Scaruffi.

    And i dont think it'd be a stretch to say @Aruji or @Galaxy have similar feelings. You're definitely right about Scaruffu's spectre still looming large. But we all grown up now. We went from having the cool uncle who showed us a bunch of albums that we thought were the best simply because our cool uncle liked them — to loving a bunch of music that our cranky, off-their-rocker uncle showed us back when we thought he was cool.

    This concludes another classic self-indulgent Rasie essay post that nobody asked for at 2:30 AM

  • rvi 🦤
    Oct 24, 2021
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    RASIE
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    Tbh scaruffi's scores/rankings haven't held any value to me for a while now. I mean the love for his music pages definitely began with an unavoidable influence over my own rankings/taste, like any other group's infatuation with notable ranked lists — like RYM for the self-identified music nerds, Rolling Stone's top 500 for boomers, or Billboard charts for Drake and Adele stans.

    For the past few years i've still really enjoyed the albums and artists his site exposed me to, and still rank many of them among my favorites, but I've since changed my own taste and opinions on his. A lot of his artist pages that i used to think of as flawless, i now very much disagree with, even though i still adore a lot of the artists.

    His writing (more accurately, his interns/superfans' writing) has nosedived since the first half of the 2010s — and I also don't find as much value in a lot of his more detailed, self-written stuff as I once did. In the rare times I go back on his site now and read an old page I used to love, it's frequently clear to me that the most valuable thing I find in them comes from his references to other similar/obscure artists, and little historical facts or events that went overlooked. His artist pages are really like the ultimate version of Pandora Radio, and being able to use that at the expense of glorifying his elitism (and cringing at that later on) isn't a bad trade.

    His film section used to be something i browsed a lot and thought highly of too, but that was the first thing on his site I did a 180 on a good while ago. That also probaly helped a lot in changing my perspective on his music scores and rankings a lot too.

    I still love his extremely "high standards" scoring system, and still think its super refreshing since the systems used in popular music journalism are still sprinting headlong in the opposite direction.

    And i'm never gonna act as if I don't think albums such as The Good Son, Down Colorful Hill, Perfect from Now On, Morphine's discog, VU&N and WL/WH, etc... aren't some of the greatest albums ever made. But nowadays I can say that I don't enjoy those (or tons of other) albums/artist because of the scores Scaruffi gave them — but I do enjoy them because of Scaruffi.

    And i dont think it'd be a stretch to say @Aruji or @Galaxy have similar feelings. You're definitely right about Scaruffu's spectre still looming large. But we all grown up now. We went from having the cool uncle who showed us a bunch of albums that we thought were the best simply because our cool uncle liked them — to loving a bunch of music that our cranky, off-their-rocker uncle showed us back when we thought he was cool.

    This concludes another classic self-indulgent Rasie essay post that nobody asked for at 2:30 AM

    thats cool man

  • rvi 🦤
    Oct 24, 2021

    jk ill actually read the post now lol

  • RASIE 🎣
    Oct 24, 2021

    But i will still pull quotes from his beatles summary to shut down their army of circlejerking b****es all day. BELIEVE DAT!

  • RASIE 🎣
    Oct 24, 2021
    rvi

    thats cool man

  • RASIE 🎣
    Oct 24, 2021

    Not one person in this thread has ever looked at his Kanye scores and changed their opinions cause of them

    Thats probably too obvious though

  • RASIE 🎣
    Oct 24, 2021
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    And it should be known that people like me, deadpeg, sufi, and others were championing Keef's post-FR work, Thugger, Future, etc... years before scaruffi even had pages on them doing the same. Hell, deadpeg is our resident Peep stan and scaruffi has recently become a Peephead.

    So it must be said: Fam Thread's spectre looms heavy on Scaruffi's site

  • rvi 🦤
    Oct 24, 2021
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    RASIE

    And it should be known that people like me, deadpeg, sufi, and others were championing Keef's post-FR work, Thugger, Future, etc... years before scaruffi even had pages on them doing the same. Hell, deadpeg is our resident Peep stan and scaruffi has recently become a Peephead.

    So it must be said: Fam Thread's spectre looms heavy on Scaruffi's site

  • RASIE 🎣
    Oct 24, 2021
    rvi

  • RASIE 🎣
    Oct 24, 2021

    Scaruffi is dead

    Long live Scaruffi