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  • Jul 23, 2022
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    Fella

    I’d go further but honestly the country would be in a much better place if it was just in a basic social democracy without the non stop cultural battles that are used as a distraction from achieving even that modest goal.

    Agreed but don't you think Trump ramped up the culture battle?

  • Jul 23, 2022
    Aruji

    I'm really conflicted about this. I do get the sentiment here but I don't want to affiliate with fascists in a sense to get the opportunity here.

    The real question why wasn't the left able to do this in the first place back when Trump headed into office for example? Where was the organization. Furthermore, another question would be if such an heavily organized structure might actually hurt the political cause? Not spontaneous enough for example if one wants to go the extra-parliamental route. In fact, the left's organization often leads to exactly that. Parliamental structures. Also, the left simply didn't do it.

    The left as it currently stands is incredibly fractured into little micro cliques that will nitpick different readings of Marxist theory all day. I’d say the same for the right at this point. The last time there was any unification on the left was the Bernie and Corbyn campaigns but both dissipated after their losses.

  • Jul 23, 2022
    Aruji

    I guess Trump realized the post-ironic Zeitgeist a lot better than classic conservatives such as Eastwood. Financial crisis and the scapegoat of the left liberal. have many reservations here myself. I think that a lot of leftist liberalism is actually an authoritarian approach to encounter historically, politcally and economically introduced injustices by adhering to habits. Trump ventured into the reactance against this. Why do I have to care about these people when I'm living in misery and it's not getting better for me (completely disregarding the effect that poverty often affects "minorities" and women). Hence his support among blue collar workers.

    If economic betterments don't go along you often get fascist movements. That's why Bernie was such a cool dude imo bth. Guy understood this and tried to unify the fights. He also felt far more like a "leader" in a sense that he applied the decorum of what it means to appear as such. Modest and honest. Then again, that's also a rather conservative notion of how a person in power should behave imo. I guess a projection of control (and fervor in Bernie's case) goes into this (something Eastwood would like I guess). Trump was the polar opposite who managed to channel the emotions.

    I know it's a rather conservative notion of how a person of power should behave but I feel like these are hard times that are just going to get worse cause of the climate and historically it takes great leaders to unite the people to overcome challenges like this I think. I'm not one to look up to politicians at all but you could at least not make me want to f***in puke.

  • Jul 23, 2022
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    Elric

    Agreed but don't you think Trump ramped up the culture battle?

    Yes of course and again I’m not saying he was a positive force other than further revealing the corruption of the political system. He was simultaneously a response to already building cultural tensions and someone who elevated it in the worst ways.

  • Jul 23, 2022
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    Fella

    Yes of course and again I’m not saying he was a positive force other than further revealing the corruption of the political system. He was simultaneously a response to already building cultural tensions and someone who elevated it in the worst ways.

    Considering how many environmental protections that he repealed I don't know if it was worth it fam

  • Jul 23, 2022
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    Elric

    Considering how many environmental protections that he repealed I don't know if it was worth it fam

    Whether it was worth it or not isn’t really what I’m saying. It was just inevitably going to happen. I’m not making value judgments about it.

  • rvi 🐦‍⬛
    Jul 23, 2022
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    i cant put much of a positive spin on giving more attention to the corruption of the political system by being even more crooked than the rest or at least doing it in a louder way

  • Jul 23, 2022

    Alright back to trans issues and Hitler

  • Jul 23, 2022
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    rvi

    i cant put much of a positive spin on giving more attention to the corruption of the political system by being even more crooked than the rest or at least doing it in a louder way

    I think the Clinton’s are much more crooked if I’m being honest.

  • Jul 23, 2022
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    Fella

    Whether it was worth it or not isn’t really what I’m saying. It was just inevitably going to happen. I’m not making value judgments about it.

    The car's on fire and there's no driver at the wheel

  • Jul 23, 2022
    Fella

    I think the Clinton’s are much more crooked if I’m being honest.

    We know you do

  • Jul 23, 2022
    rvi

    i cant put much of a positive spin on giving more attention to the corruption of the political system by being even more crooked than the rest or at least doing it in a louder way

    Exactly

  • Jul 23, 2022
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    Elric

    The car's on fire and there's no driver at the wheel

    There is and his name is Joe “come on man” Biden

  • Jul 23, 2022
    Fella

    There is and his name is Joe “come on man” Biden

    We're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine

    And the machine is bleeding to death

  • Jul 23, 2022
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    rvi

    i cant put much of a positive spin on giving more attention to the corruption of the political system by being even more crooked than the rest or at least doing it in a louder way

    Did you listen to those Japanese scores

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    Jul 23, 2022
    Fella

    I think the Clinton’s are much more crooked if I’m being honest.

    not removing Bill Clinton from office was a mistake

  • Jul 23, 2022
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    Anyone see those leaked Hunter Biden internet searches where he’s looking up “12 year old” on p***hub

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  • Jul 23, 2022
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    Fella

    Anyone see those leaked Hunter Biden internet searches where he’s looking up “12 year old” on p***hub

    I thought you were joking when you brought up Clintons but now I'm worried

  • Jul 23, 2022
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    @Koala you like 8Ball and MJG broski?
    Have been absolutely hooked on their stuff lately, always felt they were so underrated

  • Jul 23, 2022
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    Elric

    I thought you were joking when you brought up Clintons but now I'm worried

    His laptop literally leaked. There’s tons of videos of him and everything. There’s a video of him getting a foot job while smoking crack. This isn’t fringe news.

  • Jul 23, 2022
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    Fella

    His laptop literally leaked. There’s tons of videos of him and everything. There’s a video of him getting a foot job while smoking crack. This isn’t fringe news.

    Okay but what does it have to do with anything? Were we talking about Trump's kids? Who gives a f*** unless they hold office

  • Jul 23, 2022
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    Elric

    Okay but what does it have to do with anything? Were we talking about Trump's kids? Who gives a f*** unless they hold office

    It wasn’t in relation to Trump. We were done talking about that.

  • Jul 23, 2022
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    Fella

    It wasn’t in relation to Trump. We were done talking about that.

    I didn't get to edit it in time but unless it's someone that holds office I don't want to talk about slimy irrelevant peoples slimy lives especially when they're Trump cults main talking points

  • Jul 23, 2022
    Elric

    I didn't get to edit it in time but unless it's someone that holds office I don't want to talk about slimy irrelevant peoples slimy lives especially when they're Trump cults main talking points

    Oh god lol