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  • Apr 7, 2020
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    galaxy

    Quick inquiry on vote counting: I'm thinking of counting 46-50 all with 5 points, and 41-45 all with 10 instead of continuing a countdown. It feels dumb giving only 1 point more to an album that got voted than an album that didn't even make an appearance. Rank 1 to 40 would be ranked the same I think. I feel most people have more trouble with their lower rankings vs their higher rankings pretty much meaning they're equals anyway. Idk just a thought

    personally, as I've proposed previously, I think you could expand that further. I think there is very little difference between say 35-50 place. Really outside the top 20, you could start having the same points for batches of five imo

  • Apr 7, 2020
    rvi

    as good as mine gonna get. 1 album per artist

    1. Carly Rae Jepsen - Emotion
    2. Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
    3. Ariel Pink - Pom Pom
    4. Earl Sweatshirt - Some Rap Songs
    5. Furia - Księżyc milczy luty
    6. Robyn - Body Talk
    7. Clarence Clarity - No Now
    8. Sleep - The Sciences
    9. Darkside - Psychic
    10. Jai Paul - Leak 04-13 (Bait Ones)
    11. Dead Congregation - Promulgation of the Fall
    12. Charli XCX - XCX World (bootleg)
    13. George Clanton - Slide
    14. D'Angelo - Black Messiah
    15. Lorde - Melodrama
    16. Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp a Butterfly
    17. Nails - Unsilent Death
    18. Frank Ocean - Blonde
    19. Freddie Gibbs and Madlib - Pinata
    20. Pusha T - Daytona
    21. The Beths - Future Me Hates Me
    22. Fuzz - Fuzz
    23. Elder - Dead Roots Stirring
    24. Lana Del Rey - Norman F***ing Rockwell
    25. Deerhunter - Halcyon Digest
    26. Women - Public Strain
    27. The Soft Moon - The Soft Moon
    28. Rina Sawayama - RINA
    29. Blood Incantation - Starspawn
    30. High on Fire - Luminiferous
    31. Inquisition - Ominous Doctrines of the Perpetual Mystical Macrocosm
    32. Jaga Jazzist - One Armed Bandit
    33. Deathspell Omega - Paracletus
    34. Danny Brown - Atrocity Exhibition
    35. Uncle Acid and the Deadbeats - Blood Lust
    36. Oxbow - Thin Black Duke
    37. Arcade Fire - The Suburbs
    38. Grimes - Art Angels
    39. Liturgy - HAQQ
    40. Green Lung - Woodland Rites
    41. Macabre Omen - Gods of War - At War
    42. FKA Twigs - M3LL155X
    43. Bruno Pernadas - Those Who Throw Objects at the Crocodiles Will Be Asked to Retrieve Them
    44. Mgla - Exercises in Futility
    45. Future - Monster
    46. Queens of the Stone Age - Like Clockwork
    47. Behemoth - The Satanist
    48. Big Boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty
    49. Todd Terje - It's Album Time
    50. Dying Fetus - Reign Supreme

    My mon nothing but heat

  • Apr 7, 2020
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    arel

    personally, as I've proposed previously, I think you could expand that further. I think there is very little difference between say 35-50 place. Really outside the top 20, you could start having the same points for batches of five imo

    Yeah and it's a tight line between not disregarding the bottom votes and still letting them affect the scores but also making sure the top votes keep their high point totals without being over the top. Realistically, how many 50 placements should equal 1 1st placement. Not 50 that's for sure. Maybe 6 to 8 honestly.

  • Apr 7, 2020
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    galaxy

    Yeah and it's a tight line between not disregarding the bottom votes and still letting them affect the scores but also making sure the top votes keep their high point totals without being over the top. Realistically, how many 50 placements should equal 1 1st placement. Not 50 that's for sure. Maybe 6 to 8 honestly.

    If you wanna get it to work like that maybe something like:

    1st = 80 pts
    2nd = 75 pts
    3rd = 70 pts
    ...
    10th = 35 pts
    11-15th = 30 pts
    16-20th = 25 pts
    21-30th = 20 pts
    31-40th = 15 pts
    41-50th = 10 pts

  • Apr 7, 2020
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    arel

    If you wanna get it to work like that maybe something like:

    1st = 80 pts
    2nd = 75 pts
    3rd = 70 pts
    ...
    10th = 35 pts
    11-15th = 30 pts
    16-20th = 25 pts
    21-30th = 20 pts
    31-40th = 15 pts
    41-50th = 10 pts

    You think a 1st place should equal more than 2 10th places? 10th place is still a crazy high rank. I'm in the midst of working on one similar to this

    • I would rather clump the bottom in groups of 5 because as minimal as it may be 41 is still high enough that I think it gets more points than 50
  • Apr 7, 2020
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    galaxy

    You think a 1st place should equal more than 2 10th places? 10th place is still a crazy high rank. I'm in the midst of working on one similar to this

    • I would rather clump the bottom in groups of 5 because as minimal as it may be 41 is still high enough that I think it gets more points than 50

    Yeah I think it's reasonable for a 1st place to be worth ~2 10th places. I would think most people would feel that way tbh

  • Apr 7, 2020
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    arel

    Yeah I think it's reasonable for a 1st place to be worth ~2 10th places. I would think most people would feel that way tbh

    That would mean an album that potentially gets 2 #1 votes and nothing else automatically destroys an album that gets 10 votes in the 25-50 range. While the 2 #1's should get good points, it disregards the 10 people who think a different album is better. I'm trying to find a better balance. I'm working on one that's looking like this

    1st - 78pts
    2nd - 74
    3rd - 70
    4th - 67
    5th - 64
    6th - 61
    7th to 16th 2 point increase
    16th would be 41 points

    17th to 30th is flat ranking

    31-35 } 25 points
    36-40 } 20
    41-45 } 15
    46-50 } 10

    That way an album with, let's say 8 votes in the 1-25 range could equal or slightly usurp an album with 15 votes varying from 20th to 50th. Wouldn't that be fair??

  • Apr 7, 2020

    I understand that a 1st place generally means someone thinks it's a masterpiece but imo two votes in the 15 range should equal that since 2 people love an album almost enough for top 10.

  • Apr 7, 2020
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    top 5 should get like triple the points or something. make ranking mean something. otherwise the top 20 will be super predictable and boring (like always).

  • Apr 7, 2020
    rise zero

    top 5 should get like triple the points or something. make ranking mean something. otherwise the top 20 will be super predictable and boring (like always).

    This is dumb and you know it. You wanna talk predictable, your method would make the most predictable of all. If you're the only person voting for Neurosis, I'm not tripling your #1 vote and having it rank higher than an album that potentially gets 6-10 ratings within the 20-25 zone. Where is the logic in this

  • Apr 7, 2020
    rise zero

    That is silly

    I think its fair to want to do 1 album per artist to get a more diverse list

    with that said there is absolutely no way in hell I could omit Yeezus since that is legit a top 3 album of the decade for me. Kanye goated and that need to be represented.

  • Apr 7, 2020
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    Rise: wants top 5 votes to carry ridiculous weight to avoid predictability

    Me: looks at current Yeezus and MBDTF voting

  • Apr 7, 2020
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    galaxy

    Rise: wants top 5 votes to carry ridiculous weight to avoid predictability

    Me: looks at current Yeezus and MBDTF voting

    yeezus and mbdtf are gonna top the charts regardless, so that's beside the point

    you're also a giant vagina for using a jennifer lawrence gif

  • Apr 7, 2020
    galaxy

    That would mean an album that potentially gets 2 #1 votes and nothing else automatically destroys an album that gets 10 votes in the 25-50 range. While the 2 #1's should get good points, it disregards the 10 people who think a different album is better. I'm trying to find a better balance. I'm working on one that's looking like this

    1st - 78pts
    2nd - 74
    3rd - 70
    4th - 67
    5th - 64
    6th - 61
    7th to 16th 2 point increase
    16th would be 41 points

    17th to 30th is flat ranking

    31-35 } 25 points
    36-40 } 20
    41-45 } 15
    46-50 } 10

    That way an album with, let's say 8 votes in the 1-25 range could equal or slightly usurp an album with 15 votes varying from 20th to 50th. Wouldn't that be fair??

    I think you should consider the psychology of ranking. I generally observe that people think in terms of top 3/5 (generally having an established order of preference for these), top 10, top 20, top 50. I think the weighting should reflect that.

    I think your weighting suggests that the difference between 17th and 30th is less significant than the difference between 31st and 50th, which seems upside down to me.

    I think there must always be a constant or increasing change in the weighting as the rank approaches 1.
    How about:

    46-50 10
    41-45 11
    36-40 12
    31-35 14
    26-30 17
    21-25 20
    16-20 24
    11-15 28
    6-10 32
    5 37
    4 42
    3 48
    2 54
    1 60

    Or if you want it to ramp up less from 5 til 1 you can play around with those intervals. For example:

    5 37
    4 38
    3 40
    2 42
    1 45

    Or:

    5 37
    4 40
    3 43
    2 46
    1 50

    Or whatever.

  • pneu
    Apr 7, 2020
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    laudi

    let's try on Wednesday then, cocksuckas
    @RVI @Elric @woof @HeyFella @Galaxy @kilihn @WASHINGTON @drjdeponytail @Riffwanker @Koala @deadpegasus @ThuggerBaby

  • Apr 7, 2020
    rise zero

    yeezus and mbdtf are gonna top the charts regardless, so that's beside the point

    you're also a giant vagina for using a jennifer lawrence gif

    it's just a gif bro calm down

  • Apr 7, 2020

    arel really talkin bout the psychology of ranking bruh

    My current ranking is a rough draft and is not the absolute way I'm ranking them rn. I do appreciate the input and I'm working on a way to improve the middle of my ratings @arel

    At the end of the day they are just lists and the results will be somewhat similar regardless

    And we can all agree at least that no matter what I choose it will be better than the flat rankings I used to do.

    In the meantime everybody make your damn lists!!!

  • Apr 7, 2020

    @rise_zero also don't think you realize that the albums that get alot of votes tend to place in the top 5 regardless

  • Apr 7, 2020
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    Also @arel I feel like people want to still have their bottom votes represented since it's probably hard to knock off certain albums and give them 0 points but i'll figure it out

  • Apr 7, 2020
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    pneu

    How could I forget?
    I’ll make sure you’re tagged tmrw

  • pneu
    Apr 7, 2020
    laudi

    How could I forget?
    I’ll make sure you’re tagged tmrw

    No worries lol

  • Apr 7, 2020
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    galaxy

    Also @arel I feel like people want to still have their bottom votes represented since it's probably hard to knock off certain albums and give them 0 points but i'll figure it out

    I mean it's up to you. I'm just giving feedback. Nevertheless i do note that my suggestion gives quite a lot of weight to 50th place. 2 50th = 1 21st. 5 or 6 50th = 1 1st.

  • Apr 7, 2020
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    rvi

    8/10 album for me could have been an 8.5 if the last 2 songs were replaced with 1 more great one

    surprised you managed to come up with 50 different artists tbh, i could never fill my list if i wasnt adding multiple albums by one artist