Quick inquiry on vote counting: I'm thinking of counting 46-50 all with 5 points, and 41-45 all with 10 instead of continuing a countdown. It feels dumb giving only 1 point more to an album that got voted than an album that didn't even make an appearance. Rank 1 to 40 would be ranked the same I think. I feel most people have more trouble with their lower rankings vs their higher rankings pretty much meaning they're equals anyway. Idk just a thought
personally, as I've proposed previously, I think you could expand that further. I think there is very little difference between say 35-50 place. Really outside the top 20, you could start having the same points for batches of five imo
as good as mine gonna get. 1 album per artist
1. Carly Rae Jepsen - Emotion
2. Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
3. Ariel Pink - Pom Pom
4. Earl Sweatshirt - Some Rap Songs
5. Furia - Księżyc milczy luty
6. Robyn - Body Talk
7. Clarence Clarity - No Now
8. Sleep - The Sciences
9. Darkside - Psychic
10. Jai Paul - Leak 04-13 (Bait Ones)
11. Dead Congregation - Promulgation of the Fall
12. Charli XCX - XCX World (bootleg)
13. George Clanton - Slide
14. D'Angelo - Black Messiah
15. Lorde - Melodrama
16. Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp a Butterfly
17. Nails - Unsilent Death
18. Frank Ocean - Blonde
19. Freddie Gibbs and Madlib - Pinata
20. Pusha T - Daytona
21. The Beths - Future Me Hates Me
22. Fuzz - Fuzz
23. Elder - Dead Roots Stirring
24. Lana Del Rey - Norman F***ing Rockwell
25. Deerhunter - Halcyon Digest
26. Women - Public Strain
27. The Soft Moon - The Soft Moon
28. Rina Sawayama - RINA
29. Blood Incantation - Starspawn
30. High on Fire - Luminiferous
31. Inquisition - Ominous Doctrines of the Perpetual Mystical Macrocosm
32. Jaga Jazzist - One Armed Bandit
33. Deathspell Omega - Paracletus
34. Danny Brown - Atrocity Exhibition
35. Uncle Acid and the Deadbeats - Blood Lust
36. Oxbow - Thin Black Duke
37. Arcade Fire - The Suburbs
38. Grimes - Art Angels
39. Liturgy - HAQQ
40. Green Lung - Woodland Rites
41. Macabre Omen - Gods of War - At War
42. FKA Twigs - M3LL155X
43. Bruno Pernadas - Those Who Throw Objects at the Crocodiles Will Be Asked to Retrieve Them
44. Mgla - Exercises in Futility
45. Future - Monster
46. Queens of the Stone Age - Like Clockwork
47. Behemoth - The Satanist
48. Big Boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty
49. Todd Terje - It's Album Time
50. Dying Fetus - Reign Supreme
My mon nothing but heat
personally, as I've proposed previously, I think you could expand that further. I think there is very little difference between say 35-50 place. Really outside the top 20, you could start having the same points for batches of five imo
Yeah and it's a tight line between not disregarding the bottom votes and still letting them affect the scores but also making sure the top votes keep their high point totals without being over the top. Realistically, how many 50 placements should equal 1 1st placement. Not 50 that's for sure. Maybe 6 to 8 honestly.
Yeah and it's a tight line between not disregarding the bottom votes and still letting them affect the scores but also making sure the top votes keep their high point totals without being over the top. Realistically, how many 50 placements should equal 1 1st placement. Not 50 that's for sure. Maybe 6 to 8 honestly.
If you wanna get it to work like that maybe something like:
1st = 80 pts
2nd = 75 pts
3rd = 70 pts
...
10th = 35 pts
11-15th = 30 pts
16-20th = 25 pts
21-30th = 20 pts
31-40th = 15 pts
41-50th = 10 pts
If you wanna get it to work like that maybe something like:
1st = 80 pts
2nd = 75 pts
3rd = 70 pts
...
10th = 35 pts
11-15th = 30 pts
16-20th = 25 pts
21-30th = 20 pts
31-40th = 15 pts
41-50th = 10 pts
You think a 1st place should equal more than 2 10th places? 10th place is still a crazy high rank. I'm in the midst of working on one similar to this
You think a 1st place should equal more than 2 10th places? 10th place is still a crazy high rank. I'm in the midst of working on one similar to this
Yeah I think it's reasonable for a 1st place to be worth ~2 10th places. I would think most people would feel that way tbh
Yeah I think it's reasonable for a 1st place to be worth ~2 10th places. I would think most people would feel that way tbh
That would mean an album that potentially gets 2 #1 votes and nothing else automatically destroys an album that gets 10 votes in the 25-50 range. While the 2 #1's should get good points, it disregards the 10 people who think a different album is better. I'm trying to find a better balance. I'm working on one that's looking like this
1st - 78pts
2nd - 74
3rd - 70
4th - 67
5th - 64
6th - 61
7th to 16th 2 point increase
16th would be 41 points
17th to 30th is flat ranking
31-35 } 25 points
36-40 } 20
41-45 } 15
46-50 } 10
That way an album with, let's say 8 votes in the 1-25 range could equal or slightly usurp an album with 15 votes varying from 20th to 50th. Wouldn't that be fair??
I understand that a 1st place generally means someone thinks it's a masterpiece but imo two votes in the 15 range should equal that since 2 people love an album almost enough for top 10.
top 5 should get like triple the points or something. make ranking mean something. otherwise the top 20 will be super predictable and boring (like always).
top 5 should get like triple the points or something. make ranking mean something. otherwise the top 20 will be super predictable and boring (like always).
This is dumb and you know it. You wanna talk predictable, your method would make the most predictable of all. If you're the only person voting for Neurosis, I'm not tripling your #1 vote and having it rank higher than an album that potentially gets 6-10 ratings within the 20-25 zone. Where is the logic in this
That is silly
I think its fair to want to do 1 album per artist to get a more diverse list
with that said there is absolutely no way in hell I could omit Yeezus since that is legit a top 3 album of the decade for me. Kanye goated and that need to be represented.
Rise: wants top 5 votes to carry ridiculous weight to avoid predictability
Me: looks at current Yeezus and MBDTF voting
Rise: wants top 5 votes to carry ridiculous weight to avoid predictability
Me: looks at current Yeezus and MBDTF voting
yeezus and mbdtf are gonna top the charts regardless, so that's beside the point
you're also a giant vagina for using a jennifer lawrence gif
That would mean an album that potentially gets 2 #1 votes and nothing else automatically destroys an album that gets 10 votes in the 25-50 range. While the 2 #1's should get good points, it disregards the 10 people who think a different album is better. I'm trying to find a better balance. I'm working on one that's looking like this
1st - 78pts
2nd - 74
3rd - 70
4th - 67
5th - 64
6th - 61
7th to 16th 2 point increase
16th would be 41 points
17th to 30th is flat ranking
31-35 } 25 points
36-40 } 20
41-45 } 15
46-50 } 10
That way an album with, let's say 8 votes in the 1-25 range could equal or slightly usurp an album with 15 votes varying from 20th to 50th. Wouldn't that be fair??
I think you should consider the psychology of ranking. I generally observe that people think in terms of top 3/5 (generally having an established order of preference for these), top 10, top 20, top 50. I think the weighting should reflect that.
I think your weighting suggests that the difference between 17th and 30th is less significant than the difference between 31st and 50th, which seems upside down to me.
I think there must always be a constant or increasing change in the weighting as the rank approaches 1.
How about:
46-50 10
41-45 11
36-40 12
31-35 14
26-30 17
21-25 20
16-20 24
11-15 28
6-10 32
5 37
4 42
3 48
2 54
1 60
Or if you want it to ramp up less from 5 til 1 you can play around with those intervals. For example:
5 37
4 38
3 40
2 42
1 45
Or:
5 37
4 40
3 43
2 46
1 50
Or whatever.
let's try on Wednesday then, cocksuckas
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yeezus and mbdtf are gonna top the charts regardless, so that's beside the point
you're also a giant vagina for using a jennifer lawrence gif
it's just a gif bro calm down
arel really talkin bout the psychology of ranking bruh
My current ranking is a rough draft and is not the absolute way I'm ranking them rn. I do appreciate the input and I'm working on a way to improve the middle of my ratings @arel
At the end of the day they are just lists and the results will be somewhat similar regardless
And we can all agree at least that no matter what I choose it will be better than the flat rankings I used to do.
In the meantime everybody make your damn lists!!!
@rise_zero also don't think you realize that the albums that get alot of votes tend to place in the top 5 regardless
Also @arel I feel like people want to still have their bottom votes represented since it's probably hard to knock off certain albums and give them 0 points but i'll figure it out
How could I forget?
I’ll make sure you’re tagged tmrw
No worries lol
Also @arel I feel like people want to still have their bottom votes represented since it's probably hard to knock off certain albums and give them 0 points but i'll figure it out
I mean it's up to you. I'm just giving feedback. Nevertheless i do note that my suggestion gives quite a lot of weight to 50th place. 2 50th = 1 21st. 5 or 6 50th = 1 1st.