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  • Apr 14, 2020

  • Apr 14, 2020
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    Fame

  • Apr 14, 2020

    That is a perceptive quote.

    Seems like whenever people get enough money they start needing other people to know.

  • Apr 14, 2020

    give me the loot.

  • Apr 14, 2020
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    Swz3000

    I can’t imagine there are many people who would only want fame. Surely most people who desire the fame do so in part because it’s likely to bring wealth?

    It’s the other way around I think.

  • Apr 14, 2020
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    NakedBalenciaga

    But money is power why would you choose fame over that

    Power gives you fame tho.

  • Apr 14, 2020

    Imagine choosing fame

  • Apr 14, 2020
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    But you still flexing. You want the money to flex on other people. Even if it’s a small group of people, you want to be the “famous” one there.

  • Apr 14, 2020
    RX Diggler

    Fame

    Real.

  • Apr 14, 2020

    Power

  • Apr 14, 2020

    rather be remembered by the world after i’m gone

    money can’t guarantee that

  • Apr 14, 2020
    DVLPR

    It’s the other way around I think.

    I don’t think that’s true at all. Plenty of incredibly wealthy people in this world you or I wouldn’t be able to name.

  • Apr 14, 2020
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    DVLPR

    “We” is most people.

    It also says “we seek wealth because we realize that the material goods our wealth can buy us will win the admiration of other people and thereby confer on us a degree of fame”.

    A DEGREE of fame, ANY degree of fame.

    You said “as long as I can take care of the people I care about, I’m famous enough”. We could say that you indeed seek wealth because you want fame, even if you only want to be famous within your own clique.

    This just dilutes the meaning of the word “fame” so much that it becomes pointless.

    If you’re a mid level manager on 40k and you look to achieve a senior role on 100k, mainly for the money.

    You’ll become better known in your company as one of the senior leaders, but I don’t think that falls under the scope of “fame”, and I can’t imagine being well known in this context is much of motivator for most people

  • DVLPR

    Power gives you fame tho.

    Not necessarily. There are plenty of millionaires/billionaires that wouldn’t be considered famous

  • Apr 15, 2020

    Keep the fame

  • Apr 15, 2020

    real question - what at what net worth would you consider yourself to be 'wealthy'

  • Apr 15, 2020

    wealth

    if I could chill out in a nice house on the beach in the tropics with my girl for the rest of my life, funding my own projects here and there, I wouldn't mind

  • Apr 15, 2020
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    i would like to be famous more tbh
    i got a lot of s*** to say, and having the attention of so many people could hell me make the world a better place

  • Apr 15, 2020
    ongod

    i would like to be famous more tbh
    i got a lot of s*** to say, and having the attention of so many people could hell me make the world a better place

    same and one perk of being famous is that you can make money using your fame too

  • Apr 15, 2020

    the only reason id want to be famous is if i did some hugely positive humanitarian/artistic/genius s*** that deserves total recognition and respect. f*** celebrity fame

  • Apr 16, 2020
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    Swz3000

    This just dilutes the meaning of the word “fame” so much that it becomes pointless.

    If you’re a mid level manager on 40k and you look to achieve a senior role on 100k, mainly for the money.

    You’ll become better known in your company as one of the senior leaders, but I don’t think that falls under the scope of “fame”, and I can’t imagine being well known in this context is much of motivator for most people

    You’re right, the way I’m using the word fame is very diluted. The quote on OP is from a book called “A Guide to the Good Life” by William B. Irvine.

    Here’s another quote from the book regarding fame to better explain in what context it’s being compared to wealth in this thread:

    “The fame in question comes in varying degrees. Some want to be known around the world. Some seek not world fame, but regional or local fame. Those who don’t actively pursue even local dame nevertheless seek popularity within their social circle or recognition in their chosen profession. And almost everyone seeks the admiration of friends and neighbors. They are convinced that gaining fame (in some very broad sense of the word) will make them happy.”

  • Apr 16, 2020

    I’m referring to fame in a very broad sense of the word.

    Maybe a better question for you would be: would you rather be wealthy WITHOUT the ability to flex your wealth? Or would you rather NOT be wealthy but WITH the ability to flex other things (not related to wealth)?