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I mean sure but you can't see why she or someone else would get upset over him saying that? lol

The piano's are generally mixed too low for me and most of the compositions seem to be based around the percussion.I don't have a problem with this focus on the drums and while they can be interesting at times it doesn't make up for the lack of climaxes, and interesting rhythmic riffs on the album. I like alot of funk and rhythmically focused music and there weren't alot of times that this album wowed me in that respect. The album feels like listening to a slam poetry session, and I will admit while fiona's lyrics are well written it doesn't always make for the best songs to listen to for me. Shameika was pretty good to me though

that was a silly question but it seems like the newer gen values fantano's opinion more. Maybe that's just in hip hop.

Of course but also I hate Twitter ppl in general my g

Like if homie ain’t calling anyone niggas or some actual flagrant ima just shake it off ‘nahmean?

I feel you, does this count though?

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Whatever happened to KTT not caring about this guy huh

never seen this before

but was son calling a black person that?

look, I barely really follow this cac. I'm just having my life he's been literally having the whole internet in shambles over a 7 my g. (I know I know I know, "it's more about what he said" which honestly to me is bullshit because if he had gave shorty a 10 yall would not of cared about half the s*** he said lol)

Because only white women really fw her like that.

I know she was a music-head favorite in the 2010s but I didn’t know KTT2 had so many carryovers from that era. If not for the response her project got here I would’ve assumed only white women were supporting it.

I’m not even a “music is to be taken less serious if white people enjoy it” type person, it’s just what I assumed.

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First of all the song structures are completely unpredictable and unorthodox. Secondly the instrumentation coupled with her vocal approach is something that she's developed all by herself; she has her unique sound, you can't point at any particular album and say that it sounds like this one. She blends contralto singing, spoken word and yelled vocals. It's jazzy at times and also uses quiet to loud dynamics which allude to alt rock. Her brave, revealing subject matter and on top of all life-affirming lyrics are not only extremely relevant to this day and age but also define it. At last, this album was recorded in her home studio which only contributes to how much it defines our era (where we're quarantined). Classics often have a lot to do with timing and this one just happens to nail it. She carries the torch of Billie, Ella, Nina, Joni, Kate and Erykah, embrace her genius and be happy that we have her.

aye look bro all that s*** is cool, but listen, I aint gotta be happy about nothing, she aint made this album for me my g

that's the part all yall that are arming your keyboards at Fantano aren't getting.

and thanks for being specific, none of this means she created a new genre btw (my only main point lol)

“carry overs from that era” that’s a funny way to describe people who obviously know more about + respect music way more than yourself

also imagine being so absolutely brain dead as to think only white women are supporting the highest acclaimed album of the year so far just because you don’t like it

how’s it feel to be the epitome of a narcissistic dumbass?

Ok Ill watch the review im intrigued Ill come back once im done

I’m not saying it’s a bad thing to know about Fiona Apple. I just happened not to gravitate towards her sound.

I’m familiar enough to know a lot of white women like her music. That shouldn’t offend you to like the same music as another group.

It defies genres, maybe one day journalists will look back at this album and find a name for it, but for now it's just a genreless album. It points towards the future, this is somewhat close to the type of music I imagine Kurt Cobain would be making if he was still alive. In the social media era we like to have a feeling that we know the artist on a personal level, her DYI approach just feels intimate and real. When D'Angelo comes back I'm sure that his album will break more traditional rules than anything he's done in the past as well. She could easily make another When the Pawn and I would've enjoyed it just fine, but I'm glad that 20 years into her career she finds ways to challenge herself and her audience.

1) Nothing about the song structures came across as super innovative. I distinctly remember a fair amount of tracks on this following a verse chorus structure. Clip me a track if you disagree.

2) "Spoken word and yelled vocals, ... its jazzy at times and uses quiet to loud dynamics to allude to alt rock " I see the jazz correlation but trying to correlate anything on this album to alt rock is a SUPER reach. Using distortion on your voice is not just an alt rock thing musicians from ALL genre's do that (country, jazz, reggae, latin).

I could see your point if you were trying to call this album innovative but saying that this album created a new genre just comes across as sycophantic. Genre's are rarely ever created by one person or even one album. Even when they are they take time to develop and fully realize. If you were to take a new innovative album and claim it created a new genre then you would also have to do that for the countless amount of indie artists that explore genre fusion/exprimentation as well. Imo at this point this just sounds like piano rock infused with indie bedroom pop.

”this is somewhat close to the type of music I imagine Kurt Cobain would be making if he was still alive.” - KTT2 on the latest Fiona Apple album

I didn't even say the word genre in my post, Piano Fella did. I said it's a new and different STYLE and that's exactly what it is. Like I said in the last post, ofc it might inspire others eventually to follow suit and a genre will emerge. I'm not gonna step out of my way to try and prove anything to you, I've listened to the album enough times to know that it's unlike anything I've heard before.

He did it. the discussion surrounding this album is now pure chaos

called it too lol

The only thing that changed was now there’s an angry brigade of white bois on rym calling it “wine mom” music

I'm not a representative of KTT2 just myself. And yeah I stand by this statement. I know that Kurt would LOVE this album and feel inspired by it too. I've been making this connection since The Idler Wheel though.

you’re 100% right btw. idk why dude is acting like singular albums have’t birthed countless styles and subgenres before lol

"Genre's are rarely ever created by one person or even one album. Even when they are they take time to develop and fully realize."

I would agree that alot of subgenres are usually spearheaded by one person. But typically in those cases their early work still wears alot of influences on its sleeve since the artist needs time to develop their ideas. Sometimes you have cases like with a my bloody valentine where the first album is distinctively innovative but I don't see this at ALL with fetch the bolt cutters. Again it sounds like piano rock infused with indie bedroom pop to me.