bro if it did I'd lose my mind lmao
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mj776YiPCUwho gave these girls studio time n a video budget! hahaha
My ears, make it staaaap! lol
who gave these girls studio time n a video budget! hahaha
My ears, make it staaaap! lol
double it 4 a classic no doubt lmao
Can you be a little more clear in what you're trying to say here?
People take their own experiences, especially with someone from another group of people, and project that onto everyone from that group of people
They also have a hard time separating
crimes using a mindset based in criminology, population size, and expectation of human behavior -
From racist thoughts about other groups of people.
@Okonkwo I don’t understand the argument you’re making, you talk about groups rejecting intersectionality but then come to the conclusion that they are merely incompatible with each other because reasons…
I go to a pretty liberal school and there are some people who are trying to be so woke that they end up wrapping around to the other side and being conservative
Like I heard about a conversation in a gov class where one person was saying prison abolition was wrong because it didn’t go far enough and so we should just keep prisons
Yeah I’ve seen this before, it’s unironic horseshoe theory in action
Progressive folks somehow going anti-racemixing through their mental gymnastics and using white supremacist arguments to defend their positions.
The problem with a lot of these things that look "too woke" is that even if they're right, they start their tweet/tiktok whatever with a provocative phrase that they know people will react negatively too, and follow it up with some halfbaked explanation.
If he said "one's desire to not want to be fat could in part be motivated by the fact that that person looks down on fat people due to fatphobia in our society" it would be a lot less controversial, but it wouldn't get as many views as it did.
So basically it's just the way that social media works that causes these kinds of videos to go viral, it's not that the "wokeness" itself is the problem necessarily.
The problem with a lot of these things that look "too woke" is that even if they're right, they start their tweet/tiktok whatever with a provocative phrase that they know people will react negatively too, and follow it up with some halfbaked explanation.
If he said "one's desire to not want to be fat could in part be motivated by the fact that that person looks down on fat people due to fatphobia in our society" it would be a lot less controversial, but it wouldn't get as many views as it did.
So basically it's just the way that social media works that causes these kinds of videos to go viral, it's not that the "wokeness" itself is the problem necessarily.
I agree, and this is a big issue with TikTok/Twitter and how it promotes s***ty discourse with no nuance
It’s like most internet forums, you make the most attention-grabbing headline to target people in.
why is the tiktok shot at such a weird angle where his head looks huge
Even as a leftist, I can’t take the fat-positive s*** seriously at all and I think it has the potential to promote bad mentalities in people, it’s their own responsibility to deal with it however. It’s not cool to bully people or look down on people as lesser but it is simply not an issue equal to things like racism/ableism/various gender issues because it can be dealt with and changed, it’s not static.
Don’t get me wrong, i’m for body positivity but if you are truly morbidly obese, you should try to get help and change that.
@Okonkwo I don’t understand the argument you’re making, you talk about groups rejecting intersectionality but then come to the conclusion that they are merely incompatible with each other because reasons…
intersectionality says s*** like islam and homosexuality are compatible together for example when its clear that they are like oil and water, and not just the concepts but the actual groups and subcultures within
intersectionality says s*** like islam and homosexuality are compatible together for example when its clear that they are like oil and water, and not just the concepts but the actual groups and subcultures within
I mean if you want to go down this argument, both can co-exist, because there is a spectrum in every religion from progressive to conservative thought and it’s in every one of them.
I wouldn’t call all christians abortion clinic bombers, for example.
Even as a leftist, I can’t take the fat-positive s*** seriously at all and I think it has the potential to promote bad mentalities in people, it’s their own responsibility to deal with it however. It’s not cool to bully people or look down on people as lesser but it is simply not an issue equal to things like racism/ableism/various gender issues because it can be dealt with and changed, it’s not static.
Don’t get me wrong, i’m for body positivity but if you are truly morbidly obese, you should try to get help and change that.
Fat issues and gender issues are pretty similar, alot of it is mental.
I mean if you want to go down this argument, both can co-exist, because there is a spectrum in every religion from progressive to conservative thought and it’s in every one of them.
I wouldn’t call all christians abortion clinic bombers, for example.
those muslim's values are clearly more in line with modern political progressive thought and not the theology of their religion, at which point they are just part of the pluralistic culture more so than an islamic one (same w/ christian)
those muslim's values are clearly more in line with modern political progressive thought and not the theology of their religion, at which point they are just part of the pluralistic culture more so than an islamic one (same w/ christian)
Just curious, do you watch Sam Harris?
back in the day yeah
I can tell.
They are still a part of the religion, most Islamists aren't radicalized extremists, like with Christians.
These groups can still be compatible.
I'm an atheist and I understand the very edgy arguments you're trying to make. Here's a fact for thought: The western bloc propped up Saudi Wahhabism/other extremist ideologues to eliminate secular leftist movements in the Middle East back in the 70s and 80s. This is where groups like the Afghani Mujahedeen who split due to internal drama and turned into the Taliban technically got their start through funding/training.
I can tell.
They are still a part of the religion, most Islamists aren't radicalized extremists, like with Christians.
These groups can still be compatible.
I'm an atheist and I understand the very edgy arguments you're trying to make. Here's a fact for thought: The western bloc propped up Saudi Wahhabism/other extremist ideologues to eliminate secular leftist movements in the Middle East back in the 70s and 80s. This is where groups like the Afghani Mujahedeen who split due to internal drama and turned into the Taliban technically got their start through funding/training.
lmao im not talking about extremism im talking about mainstream values in these groups. nice strawman you haven't addressed the point at all which is that if you agree or take part in pluralistic culture you are superseding whatever other cultures values u may claim to abide by. if someone is religious and their religion explicitly condems homosexuality but they are in real life fine with homosexuals, they are not honoring the values of their religion and are acting out a different set of culture values
lmao im not talking about extremism im talking about mainstream values in these groups. nice strawman you haven't addressed the point at all which is that if you agree or take part in pluralistic culture you are superseding whatever other cultures values u may claim to abide by. if someone is religious and their religion explicitly condems homosexuality but they are in real life fine with homosexuals, they are not honoring the values of their religion and are acting out a different set of culture values
I can tell what you're trying to imply, which that all of Islam is inherently an extremist religion and an existential threat to western society.
You are thereby claiming the mainstream values of the religion = extremism committed by groups who attract disaffected people through the s***ty material conditions in which they live and the despair.
That's why I asked if you know how Sam Harris is, because he makes these exact arguments.
His entire f***ing meme argument is based on a cognitive fallacy of attribution error, and he doesn't understand how situational factors affect people in terms of radicalism.
I can tell what you're trying to imply, which that all of Islam is inherently an extremist religion and an existential threat to western society.
You are thereby claiming the mainstream values of the religion = extremism committed by groups who attract disaffected people through the s***ty material conditions in which they live and the despair.
That's why I asked if you know how Sam Harris is, because he makes these exact arguments.
His entire f***ing meme argument is based on a cognitive fallacy of attribution error, and he doesn't understand how situational factors affect people in terms of radicalism.
lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
literally replace islam with sikhism or judaism or any other anti-homosexual religion u want my guy the argument will read out the exact same. im not claiming that a value difference inbetween two cultures makes one culture extreme and the other not, all im pointing out is a discrepancy in them, the only way to solve the discrepancy is by abiding by a more humanistic/universalist set of values, which is in fact not the set of values that is prescribed by the religion.