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  • Tuneout

    interesting, this is something i know nothing about.

    the Jurors def have way way more information than we do.

    Do you think like beyond a reasonable doubt as its currently defined good bar? too high or too low?

    from the outside, I feel like its too low of a bar and that I would rather more criminals go free than the amount of innocent people who are arrested. (unrelated to this case). but you think that the issue is peoples education about the law and not the burden of proof?

    I think it's a good bar. The standard isn't beyond all doubt or 100% certainty. The evidence needs to convince the jury of the defendant's guilt based on reason and common sense. Once the defense introduces doubt - e.g This witness accusing our client has the motive to get up there and lie - jurors still have to decide whether this is reasonable doubt

    People's awareness of the law is absolutely an issue. I get the rationale behind the jury system but you gather 12 people with varying levels of understanding of the law, their own biases etc. to make a decision and s*** can get chaotic and unpredictable really fast. I'd much prefer leaving my fate in the hands of a Judge who is well versed in the law. People talk about corruption and racial biases etc but most Judges are afraid of having their decisions overturned on appeal/review - hella embarrassing to have another Judge say "They got the whole thing wrong, their interpretation of the law was incorrect, this accused should not have been found guilty"

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    Silas
    https://twitter.com/Blackshireflick/status/2097340361068961901

    who are these people lol

  • Sep 8

    VERDICT SOON

  • OTF Jamboree had a hell of a performance

  • Fathertyme

    OJ didn’t do s***. lol

  • Sep 8
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    Free smurk

  • We are waiting on 2 jurors who are late smh

  • Silas
    https://twitter.com/Blackshireflick/status/2097340361068961901

    100 bucks to do this for 15 min is a come up

  • Sep 8
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    Jam gotta be one of the stupidest niggas to ever breathe air

  • Sep 8
    Albert Grindstein

    Jam gotta be one of the stupidest niggas to ever breathe air

    only other person stupid is durk frfr

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    When the jury entered, the judge read instructions to the jury on the following counts:

    1. Conspiracy to commit stalking;
    2. Stalking Bowman using a dangerous weapon;
    3. Stalking Robinson resulting in death;
    4. Conspiracy to use interstate commerce facilities in a murder-for-hire resulting in Robinson’s death;
    5. Using interstate commerce facilities in a murder-for-hire resulting in Robinson’s death

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    Silas

    When the jury entered, the judge read instructions to the jury on the following counts:

    1. Conspiracy to commit stalking;
    2. Stalking Bowman using a dangerous weapon;
    3. Stalking Robinson resulting in death;
    4. Conspiracy to use interstate commerce facilities in a murder-for-hire resulting in Robinson’s death;
    5. Using interstate commerce facilities in a murder-for-hire resulting in Robinson’s death

    Fitzgerald explained to the jury that each defendant must have either knowingly aided in or knowingly committed each crime, saying simply being present without knowledge of each conspiracy was not enough.

    He stated that though three witnesses have pleaded guilty, that cannot be used as evidence of guilt for the defendants, who he reiterated have pleaded not guilty.

    Fitzgerald told the jury that the Government has the burden of proving these counts beyond a reasonable doubt, and that any persons involved in conspiracy that resulted in the death of Saviay’a Robinson , even as a planner, should be considered as guilty as the person who pulled the trigger.

  • Sep 8

    The Government goes first for the closing

    Drew and Steel will split for Durk (45 mins each)

    After, Wilson’s attorney and then Lindsay’s attorney will rebuttal from thegovernment.

    Closing arguments is expected to last the entire day.

    Jury deliberations and verdict is expected tomorrow

  • lacriminal

    who are these people lol

    I was coming in here to say this word for word

  • lacriminal

    who are these people lol

    niggas look like hired actors lol

  • Silas

    Fitzgerald explained to the jury that each defendant must have either knowingly aided in or knowingly committed each crime, saying simply being present without knowledge of each conspiracy was not enough.

    He stated that though three witnesses have pleaded guilty, that cannot be used as evidence of guilt for the defendants, who he reiterated have pleaded not guilty.

    Fitzgerald told the jury that the Government has the burden of proving these counts beyond a reasonable doubt, and that any persons involved in conspiracy that resulted in the death of Saviay’a Robinson , even as a planner, should be considered as guilty as the person who pulled the trigger.

    He's f***ed imo

  • Silas
    https://twitter.com/Blackshireflick/status/2097340361068961901

    I think the last two people are the only ones who listen to durk in that whole crowd lol

  • lacriminal

    who are these people lol

    Doodie lo paid them

  • Sep 8
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    Silas
    https://twitter.com/Blackshireflick/status/2097340361068961901

    "free the voice so he can free the world"

  • shimmy

    Free smurk

  • cfeb

    "free the voice so he can free the world"

  • lacriminal

    who are these people lol

  • Sep 8
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    Silas
    https://twitter.com/Blackshireflick/status/2097340361068961901

    Free The Voice So He Can Free The World

  • Sir Real

    Free The Voice So He Can Free The World

    they're fans who started listening on the song with the kid choir