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  • Jun 17, 2023
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    iGOAT

    Bruh if you don't know that by now, it's on you

    By you do you mean me?

    I’m you?

  • Jun 17, 2023
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    CrimsonArk

    By you do you mean me?

    I’m you?

    Correct. Don't overthink it.

  • Jun 17, 2023
    iGOAT

    Correct. Don't overthink it.

    I gotta sit down for a moment

  • Jun 17, 2023
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    CutiePieHole

    U already know those weeaboos gonna find a way to justify playing this in Japanese still

    https://twitter.com/noisypixelnews/status/1670060552117256192

    lol I played the demo in japanese to mixed results. I like it because it forces me to read subtitles . with them long as cutscenes my ass would walk away cook and listen to it

  • Jun 17, 2023
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    HaroldsChicken

    lol I played the demo in japanese to mixed results. I like it because it forces me to read subtitles . with them long as cutscenes my ass would walk away cook and listen to it

    Force urself to read subtitles even in english!!

  • Jun 17, 2023
    CutiePieHole

    Force urself to read subtitles even in english!!

    lol nah if I understand the language I don't need subtitles on screen for english. Save that reading for the lore guide lol

  • Jun 17, 2023
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    CutiePieHole

    U already know those weeaboos gonna find a way to justify playing this in Japanese still

    https://twitter.com/noisypixelnews/status/1670060552117256192
  • Jun 17, 2023
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    Hitting that Titan counter is so satisfying

  • Jun 17, 2023
    Drezo
    https://twitter.com/Goddess_Maxwell/status/1670109005283221508

    LOL

    I guess I didn't realize the Final Fantasy fanbase cared this much about number entries when they getting remakes and remasters

    i thought they realized they were getting fed good

  • Jun 17, 2023
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    wes
    https://twitter.com/Perlrulez/status/1669923589116796930

    Hitting that Titan counter is so satisfying

    Definitely a lot to learn combat wise

  • Jun 17, 2023
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    Digital Foundry guy.

    Oooh boy. Frame rate nerds about to be big mad.

  • Jun 17, 2023
    HaroldsChicken

    Definitely a lot to learn combat wise

    God, imagine the s*** people will be pulling in Final Fantasy Mode

  • Jun 17, 2023
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    I havent played the after demo section because i read it had spoilers. But im tempted.

  • Emu 🇮🇱
    Jun 17, 2023
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    wes
    https://twitter.com/Perlrulez/status/1669923589116796930

    Hitting that Titan counter is so satisfying

    I see all the love and thought the DMC combat designer put into this and then I see gameplay and it just doesn't translate like this game does not reward you for being creative like VII Remake does for example. It's impossible to beat some Turks, and bosses unless you completely change the way you fight in that game and have a strategy.

    I don't know. I'm excited for this game and I get why they changed it to make it more accessible to non-FF fans, but this feels more complicated for FF fans who are used to combat having a different tempo. Like when things get hectic, I'm not thinking about some Eikon ability to parry that attack, I'm just going to dodge.

  • Jun 17, 2023
    CutiePieHole

    I havent played the after demo section because i read it had spoilers. But im tempted.

    STAY STRONG CUTIEPIEHOLE

  • Jun 17, 2023
    CrimsonArk
    https://twitter.com/dark1x/status/1670077691641360385

    Digital Foundry guy.

    Oooh boy. Frame rate nerds about to be big mad.

    He isnt wrong, games been cooking for 6/7 months as it was meant to be relased in December.

    We got version 1.0 in the demo, and theres a 1.03 out. So I'd imagine they've fixed frame rate!

  • Jun 17, 2023
    CutiePieHole

    I havent played the after demo section because i read it had spoilers. But im tempted.

    yeah im not even touching that s***, I want the combat to be a surprise too

  • Jun 17, 2023
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    What the f*** is this tutorial ass s***. This is worse than ratchet and clank. And why is this all feel like they watched game of thrones and told chat gpt to write a similar story in the world of final fantasy?

  • Jun 17, 2023
    Delete this now

    What the f*** is this tutorial ass s***. This is worse than ratchet and clank. And why is this all feel like they watched game of thrones and told chat gpt to write a similar story in the world of final fantasy?

    Cause you don’t know peak

  • Jun 17, 2023
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    Delete this now

    What the f*** is this tutorial ass s***. This is worse than ratchet and clank. And why is this all feel like they watched game of thrones and told chat gpt to write a similar story in the world of final fantasy?

    I’m assuming you haven’t played many JRPGs, or classic FFs (4 through 9).

    Also, there’s nothing explicitly GoT about this game outside of leaning more into darker territory.

    Political intrigue, imperialist acts, even the setting is treaded territory for the series.

    I think them mentioning GoT was a bit of a mistake because to a lot of people, for some reason, GoT is seen as the originator of dark fantasy, so anytime anything violent or sexual occurs they’re going to immediately attribute it to being a GoT moment, even if it’s completely appropriate for the narrative, tone or setting.

  • Jun 17, 2023
    CrimsonArk
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    I’m assuming you haven’t played many JRPGs, or classic FFs (4 through 9).

    Also, there’s nothing explicitly GoT about this game outside of leaning more into darker territory.

    Political intrigue, imperialist acts, even the setting is treaded territory for the series.

    I think them mentioning GoT was a bit of a mistake because to a lot of people, for some reason, GoT is seen as the originator of dark fantasy, so anytime anything violent or sexual occurs they’re going to immediately attribute it to being a GoT moment, even if it’s completely appropriate for the narrative, tone or setting.

    12 is a classic!!

  • Jun 17, 2023
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    Emu

    I see all the love and thought the DMC combat designer put into this and then I see gameplay and it just doesn't translate like this game does not reward you for being creative like VII Remake does for example. It's impossible to beat some Turks, and bosses unless you completely change the way you fight in that game and have a strategy.

    I don't know. I'm excited for this game and I get why they changed it to make it more accessible to non-FF fans, but this feels more complicated for FF fans who are used to combat having a different tempo. Like when things get hectic, I'm not thinking about some Eikon ability to parry that attack, I'm just going to dodge.

    Completely disagree with you. I'm really not sure of what you mean by saying FF7R rewards you with being creative. I definitely never felt like I really had to change my strategy too far outside the norm in that game besides having to cast Thunder because the enemy is weak to it lol (unless you're talking about hard mode, where I think you're actually forced to be less creative with your build, though its been a bit so I can't fully remember).

    I also do not think we've seen nearly enough when it comes to 16's boss design to say we won't have to completely switch up our strategies. Who knows, maybe you can't just spam attack and you need to use your Eikon abilities to break the guard/parry or something to that effect? I don't think that's too far out of the question since we already see that with some enemies in the demo. I think people who do play a "simpler" way bynot utilizing all the abilities in their arsenal will end up complaining that the fights take too long.

    You also have way more options in 16 compared to 7R, which I think lends to it being much more creative. Have you seen the stuff people pull off in DMC or Bayo?

    More options are (usually) never a bad thing in combat-heavy games. Sure, you can always just dodge instead of using an Eikon ability to counter (and the game isn't outright stopping you from doing that or anything), but the ability to do something besides dodging is fantastic and gives you more agency to do something new and cool instead of dodging then pressing one button to attack over and over. This type of combat is the epitome of being creative and that "rewarding factor" (at least for me) is that it's more of an intrinsic thing that makes me say, "holy s***, that combo was sick".

    As for the combat for this wildly different from previous entries, each tends to do something new in terms of the gameplay. There's usually some new gimmick or gameplay style, so I don't think it's very fair say this is something that's too much of a different tempo when it's in the series DNA to do something new (just look at going from the combat in 10 to 12 and then into 13).

  • Jun 17, 2023

    Totally forgot about the tropical area.

  • Jun 17, 2023
    CutiePieHole

    U already know those weeaboos gonna find a way to justify playing this in Japanese still

    https://twitter.com/noisypixelnews/status/1670060552117256192

    I’m a weeb myself and had to quit the demo and switch to English voices after the first handful of cutscenes

  • Jun 17, 2023
    Emu

    I see all the love and thought the DMC combat designer put into this and then I see gameplay and it just doesn't translate like this game does not reward you for being creative like VII Remake does for example. It's impossible to beat some Turks, and bosses unless you completely change the way you fight in that game and have a strategy.

    I don't know. I'm excited for this game and I get why they changed it to make it more accessible to non-FF fans, but this feels more complicated for FF fans who are used to combat having a different tempo. Like when things get hectic, I'm not thinking about some Eikon ability to parry that attack, I'm just going to dodge.

    I think most people would agree that FF7R is a better system and most people were confused at the decision to flip back to pure action when they had something nice to build on from the other team

    You aren’t alone in your thoughts