shaleirose

2y

Bro is really acting like this performance hasn’t been getting ripped to shreds literally everywhere for the past 4 days

MiniVan

2y

2 hour episode frank will be speaking on why you should buy a bidet over a rough piano instrumental

MiniVan

2y

2 hour episode frank will be speaking on why you should buy a bidet over a rough piano instrumental

Faith

2y

Might sound harsh, but sometimes cold/hard truth is the best medicine

We’ve all seen diehard and delusional fans grasping for any—every—excuse to support Frank. It was difficult for me, too, but I reached the conclusion he pulled Def Jam pt. II by meeting contractual obligations to swindle Coachella, and more importantly fans, to the tune of $5,000,000: half-ass his “first” show after throwing diva tantrums, then the medical excuse cop out to avoid breach of contract and possibly collect on insurance for weekend 2—strange the cancel decision didn’t arrive til Wednesday.

His willingness to collect on ridiculous prices for merch commemorating an ever-aging (albeit legendary) body of work is shameless. If only he approached his loyal fandom with new art when he gets hungrier for money…

This dude has parlayed his considerable musical gifts into a career as a jeweler and, apparently, soon a director for A24 (“see you soon” 🤡). Without the money he was paid, by fans, the worlds of fine jewelry and Hollywood wouldn’t have given a rat’s ass. We are constantly chided, “he doesn’t owe fans anything.” If so, he should at least respect the fans enough to quit cashing in on re-releasing 6+ year old material, tired/mid merch, and fly-by-night “performances”.

I think it’s fair to say that the rich and famous end up surrounded by enablers and yes-men who contribute to an environment of delusion, paranoia, and oftentimes, identity crisis. Justin Bieber might have enjoyed the show, but, my instinct couldn’t help consider that he so publicly declared support for a universally recognized catastrophe to ingratiate himself to Frank (I know I’m gonna catch s*** for this, but I really couldn’t help but think it).

Whilst some people think being permissive of Frank’s greed and manipulation in the name of grief is doing him a favor, I think it’s the exact opposite. Sometimes people need to be held up to a mirror to see problems afflicting them, and to hopefully better themselves.

The way I see it, a talented musician is wealth-obsessed and trying to make bandaids out of dollar bills; this at the expense of the most consistent $ source he’s ever known: music fans. His refusal to be real with his core audience is transparent and appalling. It’s even offensive, because he underestimates one of the most patient and understanding fandoms I’ve ever seen—his own.

In his writing and music, I’ve witnessed a sensitive and compassionate soul, and that soul is not consistent with this greed and callous disregard of other human beings…I just want to see him act with integrity, with or without music.

PS shout out to Morgan, the only real “beauty in chaos” was that show introducing us to a great personality and emerging artist!

OldAssChampion

2y

I haven’t heard a single person talk down on franks performance in my day to day life

Your social media feed isn’t the majority and the sooner y’all realize that the better

OldAssChampion

2y

You’re speaking in circles now, internet echo chambers have never represented the majority. If we wanna get technical, the literal majority probably has no clue Frank performed.

Does majority of your IG feed or twitter TL hate it? Maybe, your algorithm is catered to you, but let’s stop pretending like the actual majority gives a s*** as much as y’all

shaleirose

2y

I’ve actually had several people in real life tell me about how bad his performance was, even this one former co-worker of mine who I haven’t spoken to in months texted me about it

shaleirose

2y

Yes I’m sure GoldenVoice never wants him back at Coachella again and I’m sure Frank dropped out of the second weekend because that first performance was so loved by everyone

OldAssChampion

2y

And that’s great, but you don’t see the desperation in the fact you keep needing other opinions to validate yours?

I’ve had people in my day to day say they love it, but anecdotal evidence means nothing to me

shaleirose

2y

I’m not using their opinion to validate anything, I’m simply showing you that it’s pretty obvious that the majority of people did not like it.

If you liked it, COOL, that’s great. But you’ve been in here for the past 4 days tryna convince those who didn’t like it that it’s actually a good performance because you personally liked it. Get over it already

OldAssChampion

2y

Yes you are, first “majority of people” were your validation, when I shot that down you switched to your friends, if you didn’t like it that’s fine, but let’s not speak for everyone

shaleirose

2y

It’s like Honestly, Nevermind.

Personally I love that album and it’s one of my favorite Drake projects.

But it’s obvious that the majority of Drake fans did not like that project whatsoever.

That doesn’t change my opinion of the album at all, but I’d be a fool to try and argue that the majority of fans liked it, or act like there’s no way to tell what the general consensus on it was

shaleirose

2y

Bro I was ITT saying the performance was bad literally as it was happening, I’m not using anyone’s opinion to validate mine

I only brought up my friends opinions’ because YOU did

OldAssChampion

2y

I have no clue what majority of people thought about HN, but I notice the trend of you thinking you do

I liked the album and that was enough for me

OldAssChampion

2y

And nobody is arguing against how you feel? But you don’t know how the majority feel and that’s okay, y’all wanna be tapped in so bad

shaleirose

2y

Do you live under a rock or something. You can’t tell what the general consensus is on an album or movie or show or anything like that?

OldAssChampion

2y

I just live in reality, I can tell you how I feel, how anyone else feels should be taken up with them

Faith

2y

Might sound harsh, but sometimes cold/hard truth is the best medicine

We’ve all seen diehard and delusional fans grasping for any—every—excuse to support Frank. It was difficult for me, too, but I reached the conclusion he pulled Def Jam pt. II by meeting contractual obligations to swindle Coachella, and more importantly fans, to the tune of $5,000,000: half-ass his “first” show after throwing diva tantrums, then the medical excuse cop out to avoid breach of contract and possibly collect on insurance for weekend 2—strange the cancel decision didn’t arrive til Wednesday.

His willingness to collect on ridiculous prices for merch commemorating an ever-aging (albeit legendary) body of work is shameless. If only he approached his loyal fandom with new art when he gets hungrier for money…

This dude has parlayed his considerable musical gifts into a career as a jeweler and, apparently, soon a director for A24 (“see you soon” 🤡). Without the money he was paid, by fans, the worlds of fine jewelry and Hollywood wouldn’t have given a rat’s ass. We are constantly chided, “he doesn’t owe fans anything.” If so, he should at least respect the fans enough to quit cashing in on re-releasing 6+ year old material, tired/mid merch, and fly-by-night “performances”.

I think it’s fair to say that the rich and famous end up surrounded by enablers and yes-men who contribute to an environment of delusion, paranoia, and oftentimes, identity crisis. Justin Bieber might have enjoyed the show, but, my instinct couldn’t help consider that he so publicly declared support for a universally recognized catastrophe to ingratiate himself to Frank (I know I’m gonna catch s*** for this, but I really couldn’t help but think it).

Whilst some people think being permissive of Frank’s greed and manipulation in the name of grief is doing him a favor, I think it’s the exact opposite. Sometimes people need to be held up to a mirror to see problems afflicting them, and to hopefully better themselves.

The way I see it, a talented musician is wealth-obsessed and trying to make bandaids out of dollar bills; this at the expense of the most consistent $ source he’s ever known: music fans. His refusal to be real with his core audience is transparent and appalling. It’s even offensive, because he underestimates one of the most patient and understanding fandoms I’ve ever seen—his own.

In his writing and music, I’ve witnessed a sensitive and compassionate soul, and that soul is not consistent with this greed and callous disregard of other human beings…I just want to see him act with integrity, with or without music.

PS shout out to Morgan, the only real “beauty in chaos” was that show introducing us to a great personality and emerging artist!