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  • Theory Talk Trader

    they wrote all that for free only for complex to take that essay, throw it into chatGPT to reduce it by 50% and post it on their website for sweet ad revenue by end of day

    it's a cold world

  • Apr 20, 2023
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    They were planning the ice theme for months and months. Frank scraps it on the day of - does a controversial set list, gets very mixed/negative reaction.

    5 days out, no clear theme and clearly doesn’t want to replicate the chaos. With the original idea leaked, he resorts to the ankle injury as a lifeline to drop out.

    Could he have played W2? I’m 99% sure but he would’ve preferred to have a spectacle, however, given the timeframe would not be realistic to cook up something at that scale.

  • Apr 20, 2023
    Theory Talk Trader

    they wrote all that for free only for complex to take that essay, throw it into chatGPT to reduce it by 50% and post it on their website for sweet ad revenue by end of day

    it's a cold world

    the comments on it had me flying

  • Apr 20, 2023
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    the weeknd is toxic in his music but a sweetheart in real life
    frank ocean is a sweetheart in his music but a toxic mf in real life

  • Apr 20, 2023
    xxxkiraxxx

    the weeknd is toxic in his music but a sweetheart in real life
    frank ocean is a sweetheart in his music but a toxic mf in real life

    ChatGPT

  • Apr 20, 2023
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    Delete the last 1500 pages tbh

  • Apr 20, 2023
    Campari

    They were planning the ice theme for months and months. Frank scraps it on the day of - does a controversial set list, gets very mixed/negative reaction.

    5 days out, no clear theme and clearly doesn’t want to replicate the chaos. With the original idea leaked, he resorts to the ankle injury as a lifeline to drop out.

    Could he have played W2? I’m 99% sure but he would’ve preferred to have a spectacle, however, given the timeframe would not be realistic to cook up something at that scale.

    Which is kinda dumb cause unless he had a plan of doing something different weekend 2 already people would have already known the spectacle if he followed through with it weekend 1

  • Apr 20, 2023

    Remember those stories of frank supposedly Limping backstage. Yet literally we see him hop skip and jump backstage after his set ended like he was excited to go home lmao

  • Apr 20, 2023
    deleteduser2863

    Delete the last 1500 pages tbh

    they're classic

  • Apr 20, 2023
    underachiever

    i actually enjoyed the performance and like and appreciate it more and more but man,

    everything else about this has been a complete disaster honestly

    • no week 2 (if it’s a fracture it’s understandable ofc and i wish him a speedy recovery but who tf knows with this guy at this point, i dont wanna doubt anything but its almost hard to believe this version of 2 fractures and a sprain with some of the videos going around - footage could be misleading and not certain proof of anything though so whatever)
    • bmw promo leading to absolutely nothing as mentioned by someone here
    • no merch, surely disappointed some fans
    • all the last minute ice rink drama, feels almost like if frank was trolling all along but it sucks if he scrapped it last minute for no real reason (again, understandable and unfortunate if the show really had to be reworked due to the injury as said)
    • not even gonna talk about the vague album announcement (i expected no new music and im ok with it but this s*** was actually worse, almost rather he didn’t say anything about it lol
    • the backlash is quite understandable given the controversy some of the points mentioned have caused (also him pulling up late), even though i believe it is not fair to criticise the performance itself because it was all good (however, i agree that it probably wasn’t suited the best for coachella even though i liked parts of it a lot and found it really interesting as a whole)
    • and in general, just as always, the LACK OF COMMUNICATION (not that i would expect anything else from frank) - we got at least some explanation for him dropping out due to an injury, but idk, i would just appreciate at least a little something directly from frank and not just a vague statement from his reps when it comes to this

    the only problem with backlash is that it consists of many fake narratives. i mean frank brought all this on himself and some critique is a must, but even coachella goers making things up about him singing 2-3 songs and set being only 30 minutes to inflate the drama. but i guess that's the era we live rn

    this video pretty much sums it up: tiktok.com/@​jaydotbell/video/7223486927893187882

  • Apr 20, 2023
    deleteduser2863

    Delete the last 1500 pages tbh

    Nah this thread will be studied hard in the future to fully understand human interaction, aggression, stan culture, parasocial behaviour, etc.

    It's a goldmine

  • Apr 20, 2023
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    Campari

    They were planning the ice theme for months and months. Frank scraps it on the day of - does a controversial set list, gets very mixed/negative reaction.

    5 days out, no clear theme and clearly doesn’t want to replicate the chaos. With the original idea leaked, he resorts to the ankle injury as a lifeline to drop out.

    Could he have played W2? I’m 99% sure but he would’ve preferred to have a spectacle, however, given the timeframe would not be realistic to cook up something at that scale.

    it's still unclear what exactly went wrong and why he was so triggered about ice rink

  • Apr 20, 2023
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    leif erikson

    it's still unclear what exactly went wrong and why he was so triggered about ice rink

    The only thing i can think of is that hes a perfectionist and he let it get to him to much

  • Apr 20, 2023
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    deleteduser2863

    Delete the last 1500 pages tbh

    Donda album thread was worse than this

  • Apr 20, 2023
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    mov

    Donda album thread was worse than this

    At least we got at least 1 classic show, endless classic memes, and a great album out of it

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    deleteduser2863

    At least we got at least 1 classic show, endless classic memes, and a great album out of it

    we need doot

  • Apr 20, 2023
    xxxkiraxxx

    the weeknd is toxic in his music but a sweetheart in real life
    frank ocean is a sweetheart in his music but a toxic mf in real life

    now extrapolate that to all public figures

  • Apr 20, 2023
    leif erikson

    it's still unclear what exactly went wrong and why he was so triggered about ice rink

    That’s still an unknown variable. I know the skaters said their friend will come on and clear everything up but I don’t know if Frank just said “it’s a wrap” and moved on from the idea or actually explained the scrap to him.

    This did seem to tie into the Eric Roth visual project with the skaters being from the same university so we basically missed out on a legendary project here.

    How does A24 see this and feel comfortable giving him a production budget, he’s so elusive and can rapidly shift visions, not really the best safety net for a multi-million dollar venture.

  • Apr 20, 2023
    mov

    Donda album thread was worse than this

    *better

  • Apr 20, 2023
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    deleteduser2863

    At least we got at least 1 classic show, endless classic memes, and a great album out of it

    6 weeks of pure agony until it finally dropped

  • Apr 20, 2023
    mov

    Donda album thread was worse than this

    Frank Ocean's discography but the word P**** is added to every album and song title:

  • Apr 20, 2023

    They really shoulda replaced him with Drake and made it full all full circle

  • Apr 20, 2023
    supermodel

    you’re right but not if he’s not smoking, if he’s doing other s*** like ingesting pills then a lot less likely to affect his voice (source: im a vocalist)

    Yea it really depends his teeth should be a good indicator but he can pay through that s***. I generally don't think he's doing it. Also a vocalist howdy homie

  • Apr 20, 2023

    I bet he wears disguises in public.