Tito Ninety Four âď¸Mar 26, 2021¡1 reply
worthitPartially but I don't think you're giving our brain enough credit
We're only using what... 14% of our brain?
There are so many conditions we have no idea about that simply steer our actions
Take weather as an example. With every year we're able to collect more and more data to PREDICT how the weather is going to behave. We make complicated models containing data about winds, temperature, pressure etc. and we're able to calculate how many degrees will there be next Friday and if it's going to rain
Same way we could create an extreeemely complicated model of our brain. And if we could take into account all the incentives we could predict someone's actions.
You wake up one day and you feel like drinking Tea instead of your morning coffee. You think it's your FREE choice. But you cannot explain the origin of that thought. You just woke up and felt like drinking tea instead of coffee. We call it free will bc we can't comprehend the fact we're not really controlling our own mind. We call the moment a thought appears in our head "free will" bc we're simply not able to comprehend from where and why did this thought appear in our brain
Thoughts are not will. Will is the decision you make to carry out actions
Mar 26, 2021¡3 repliesHow the f*** did that âwe use 10-14% of our brainâ s*** become so commonly accepted
thereâs no truth to that at all lmao
Mar 26, 20212005hondacivicHow the f*** did that âwe use 10-14% of our brainâ s*** become so commonly accepted
thereâs no truth to that at all lmaoRemember that every night you eat 100 spiders one
- OPMar 26, 2021¡edited¡2 repliesTito Ninety Four
Thoughts are not will. Will is the decision you make to carry out actions
"A man can do as he wills, but he cannot will what he wills." - Arthur Schopenhauer
Mar 26, 2021Genetics plays a huge part
- Mar 26, 20212005hondacivic
How the f*** did that âwe use 10-14% of our brainâ s*** become so commonly accepted
thereâs no truth to that at all lmaoMorgan Freeman said it in some action movie and people ran with it. I also think "Limitless" had a bit in there about only using a small percentage of brain cells
- OPMar 26, 2021¡edited
coltrupvery thought provoking article.
so what its suggesting is that this "power" representing free will is the "power to do otherwise".
and one interpretation of modern physics implies multiple possible futures for a given present. we make a different choice in each possible future, suggesting that we DO have the "power to do otherwise".
Yeah I guess
If we twist the definition of free will to just not being sure where your present leads you and having a possibility to "do otherwise" than yeah "Free Will" exists
But if we want to go by the popular definition I don't think you could count some random quantum fluctuations in your brain as a full conscious developed free decision making. It still sounds like you have no control over your destiny difference is that you just can't be sure that if you start at A you'll always end up in B
That's why I guess Alex Garland in that video says that if you could rewind time and you then went back you could end up in slightly or completely different places
- OPMar 26, 20212005hondacivic
How the f*** did that âwe use 10-14% of our brainâ s*** become so commonly accepted
thereâs no truth to that at all lmaoYeah it might be bullshit but this wasn't the point. Point is we cannot comprehend 100% of the incentives our brains process and that's what I wanted to communicate by saying we use X-% of our brain
- Tito Ninety Four âď¸Mar 26, 2021¡2 repliesworthit
"A man can do as he wills, but he cannot will what he wills." - Arthur Schopenhauer
Entirely different concept tbh
- OPMar 26, 2021¡1 replyTito Ninety Four
Entirely different concept tbh
How so?
Mar 26, 2021worthit"You are free to do whatever you think
But you're not free to chose what you think"Do you believe the free will is real?
Or do you see how our actions are just results of all other past and present conditions having affect on us?
Are you asking a question or just trying to start a discussion?
- Mar 26, 2021Tito Ninety Four
Entirely different concept tbh
Not really
- Tito Ninety Four âď¸Mar 26, 2021¡1 replyworthit
How so?
If will is making your decision to carry out an action...
That's not even in the same philosophical ballpark as "where do our thoughts come from?"
You gonna think what you want. Or your brain. But the free will doesn't come into play until you choose a course of action. Which is always your choice. A thought is not a forceful action, no matter where it comes from.
- Mar 26, 2021¡1 replyworthit
"A man can do as he wills, but he cannot will what he wills." - Arthur Schopenhauer
This isnât related to your point about âthoughtsâ though
Mar 26, 2021Freedom, Free doom - Kanye West
Mar 26, 2021I was gonna make a thread about this
- OPMar 26, 2021¡1 replyTito Ninety Four
If will is making your decision to carry out an action...
That's not even in the same philosophical ballpark as "where do our thoughts come from?"
You gonna think what you want. Or your brain. But the free will doesn't come into play until you choose a course of action. Which is always your choice. A thought is not a forceful action, no matter where it comes from.
Yeaah I recommend reading the whole thread bc I went deep into this stuff here
You saying "which is always your choice" shows that you're not that deep into it yet and you're operating on a level of disproving that theory by ignoring it
I argue there's no such thing as "your choice"
I've posted couple interesting links in here give them a go when you have time
- Mar 26, 2021¡1 reply
I'm pretty sure it doesn't but I guess it doesn't matter in a way. Kinda like even if we were in a simulation it wouldn't matter at the end of the day. So I try not to think about it. If you overthink i, it can kind of f*** with you
- OPMar 26, 2021¡1 replylaudi
This isnât related to your point about âthoughtsâ though
Yeah okay I'm talking about thinking as will like you think about drinking tea and it aligns with your will
Picking this apart at this level doesn't lead to anything
Kenig đMar 26, 2021I am the only one with a free will youâre all just sheep in my world
- OPMar 26, 2021GIO GIO
I'm pretty sure it doesn't but I guess it doesn't matter in a way. Kinda like even if we were in a simulation it wouldn't matter at the end of the day. So I try not to think about it. If you overthink i, it can kind of f*** with you
True
It changes completely nothing to how we operate and how we feel
If you love someone that love is true no one is going to take it away from you by saying "you didn't really chose to love her"
It's all still completely real
- Mar 26, 2021¡1 replyworthit
Yeaah I recommend reading the whole thread bc I went deep into this stuff here
You saying "which is always your choice" shows that you're not that deep into it yet and you're operating on a level of disproving that theory by ignoring it
I argue there's no such thing as "your choice"
I've posted couple interesting links in here give them a go when you have time
This is the 66th post in the thread
Each new person ainât gonna read everything 
CKL TML đşMar 26, 2021Free Will till its backwards
- OPMar 26, 2021laudi
This is the 66th post in the thread
Each new person ainât gonna read everything66 posts where 10 of them were actually insightful rest was just "I have free will bc I can f*** you up"
I get it If you don't have time to read the whole thing but we went super deep into this stuff yesterday and the day before and I'm not gonna repeat it just bc 3 pages of posts is too much reading...
- Mar 26, 2021¡1 replyworthit
Yeah okay I'm talking about thinking as will like you think about drinking tea and it aligns with your will
Picking this apart at this level doesn't lead to anything
Not really understanding that example but I will add I only believe in science and âknown unknownsâ
Things like the power of suggestion and the desperate need for canonization to feel relevant