Bruh...

The gap in that idea of wanting a provider that you may find in normal women vs the extreme ends to which the girls on f&f take that to is so big that it becomes something that you cannot compare it anymore imo

There’s always extremes though but I do think it shows the very idea has always been imprinted on women since they were children from the content they consumed to how they were raised. Even working class women who think practically still have that fantasy of a guy who will make their lives amazing and give them that princess lifestyle. They just also know they don’t have the looks or the popularity to land a guy like that.

It’s not that bad

Sounds so much like Trump

Crying about things they hate seems to be most people's favorite activity

I always laugh when people complain about the negativity on twitter, thats literally why its popular

Sir, most women in the real world do not act like these women on ig. F&F is literally brainwashing zoomers into hating women and being losers. It's more damaging than ig women and their nonsense

Don’t like, don’t watch it, simple as that.

I know I can speak on my reality and plenty of women behave like this (maybe not as exaggerated but they have the same expectations from their man that he be taller, stronger, and wealthier than them). There’s always exceptions but most women want a man like that.

The last episode only had 2 people with brain cells and fuentes was one of them.

This might be true, but it's not like the f&f coalition of men aren't the equivalent on the other side

He put on a white hood over his head pretending to be a KKK member, called Peach the n-word with a hard r over and over again, while calling him an ape etc. and keept putting up a Nazi salute. It was so bad even Sneako got uncomfortable, dude is digusting and has mad self-hate.

most women do not want a man like Fresh nor Fit.

Height is irrelevant to most women. It's just icing on the cake. Being stronger and wealthier is fine because women are wired to be taken care of and that's the history of women in relation to men. That isn't the fundamental problem.

But I think we spend enough time as a society criticizing and highlighting misogynistic men. Their control and abuse patterns, thinly veiled insecurities, and behaviors have been well documented by social media. We can tell very easily nowadays what are indicators to run from these crazy lunatics.

We know little to nothing about these crazy women because social media tells us to believe all women. There’s so many different types of abuse women put men through in relationships that men are conditioned to accept because nobody irl would ever call it abuse and men are taught to “suck it up”. The kind of women I’m describing who believe they’re entitled to a man like this are very likely to be emotionally or financially abusive but most men ignore these signs because nobody tells them what signs to avoid like we do with telling women what signs to avoid from crazy men.

Fresh & Fit could land plenty of women if they didn’t highlight their misogyny on a podcast every day. They literally are the guys on a nice ass boat in Miami with some of the most beautiful women on there every day.

I see so many couples in public every day where a 5 ft woman is with a 6” guy. Height is very important to most women. Again, I’ve seen couples where the woman is taller or same height but it’s rare. It’s just as relevant to those other factors that showcase a woman wants a guy that will take care of them but it also highlights their worst behavioral tactics of believing they’re entitled to that kind of guy.

Ban this misogynist thread

No they couldn't lmao. Both have been exposed multiple times. Fresh literally dated a girl he found from a sugar daddy website and when he told a group of girls and akademiks he had game, his girlfriend rolled her eyes and akademiks called him out. The girl wasn't even that cute. 7 at best.They've been called out multiple times. They grift on insecure loser men who don't know how to talk to women because they want the women in rap videos and can't talk to them so they compensate with their income and then end up treating women like s***dolls and it shows all the time.

Without income, no girl would take them seriously. With income, no girl respects them but will tolerate them to an extent. Both are still single and if they really had control over women like they suggested, they wouldn't sound like clowns all the time.

This doesn't change the fact that there are women who are awful and act foolish, but F&F self-selects delusional ig women to justify their nonsense. It's no different than if females had a podcast and self-selected loser men to justify how men aint sht and are worthless. Stupidity

” They don’t outright say it on a first date but as you get to know them, you realize they want a guy who will provide for them and that they’re compensating for it through their “looks”

this is largely a traditional gender role that women play, and it has been this way for quite a long time, why is it an issue now? are you for the abolishment (or rather the subversion) of these gender standards/expectations or? it’s instilled culturally that men provide and women nurture. the apparent entitlement that you speak of is a direct reflection of those trad values to an extent

men act like women have such high standards like they dont have ridiculous standards themselves 😹😹😹

Maybe so but I’m simply saying they’re young, in good shape and make a ton of money. If they learned simple manners and laid low, they could get pretty much any woman they wanted. Even with being a******s, they could still f*** models just like Akademiks. But they’re obviously going to stay single now that they’ve decided to brand themselves as women haters. They chose the money and the grift over the women.

The reality is most women have similar fantasies to these. The reason they pick women with IG or OF followings is because they actually achieved their fantasies and you get to see their entitlement in full force. It’s the equivalent to seeing how a young and immature man would act if you gave him the money and power he desires

Because the reality is most men aren’t that. Just like most women aren’t the super beautiful, thin, submissive nurturer that can cook and clean. Yet we shame men for not being strong, tall, and rich but get upset at anyone who wants the “ideal” woman.

Ironically, your post is literally the reason why podcasts like F&F are there

We all have high standards. The difference is men get shamed for them and it’s accepted universally on social media. As soon as F&F starts shaming women for their high standards though, that’s when everyone gets pissed

I refuse to believe you think this is true

well clearly some men must fulfill the idea of a provider role if this role persisted for centuries for so long, they may not meet the ideal of a provider (nor do a good swath of women meet the ideal of being an attractive thin nurturer) but largely this ideal plays out in most movies, TV shows, books etc. it’s very pervasive

and what do you mean my post is why F&F is popular? and is that a yes for subverting gender norms then?

It’s absolutely true and it’s a symptom of our biology as well as our culture that conditions us to have a fantasy. We mask it due to our limitations and inadequacies but if we come even somewhat close to achieve it, our delusions ring out in full force