Not even close

I feel like if that was their intention it’d have already came out

Rare example of an artist influencing a sound that others did better than him afterwards

Frank Ocean deserves an unprecedented $100 million plus record contract with artistic freedom

Obviously he’s not even close yet he’s 3 albums in without a true classic but he has time his first 3 albums are extremely good too I could see it

Lowkey

I do think he could do a better job of that sound now though given how much he’s improved at other aspects of music

He has enough money to just do what drake does now and what he seems to do of funding the album himself and then shopping it to a label who buy x% of royalties in exchange for a check and paying distribution costs

This is what I’m trying to say lol. His music was so impressive when it released and as time went on and you moved on to other artist,his output started to look less amazing. I still have a lot of respect for him as an artist tho.

He's three albums in, in a span of almost 10 years and only one of them is considered elite and he already slipping with HIB. I don't see it happening

interesting in my experience i had literally never heard of criticism of kendricks voice, esp from my friends, but once i started going online and reading music discussions it seemed to be the #1 complaint against him.

in any case, its always seemed like a weird point bc i would consider his vocal ability to be one of his strongest tools from a storytelling perspective

which artists did it better than him?

It probably gives him more of a sense of freedom to drop music that way but Frank is like,one of the last prestige music artist left. It’d just be cool to see him get a deal like that in today’s f***ed up record industry.

I feel like we just strongly differ on THIB and are seeing completely different trajectories for him as a result lol

For sure he deserves it

Camron is the most influential rapper in the past 3 decades

Yeah. It varies.

I remember having casual rap discussions with my fam and friends and they'll talk about Cole's music.

Then, when I bring up Kendrick, they'll give him props but tell me that they can't really get into him cause of his voice.

To be fair, a lot of them still f*** with GKMC. They just don't f*** with Kendrick's voice/delivery post GKMC like that and they find Cole more approachable.

Half of these people were chicks though so that might play a role.

Future’s top 10 of all time and I say this unironically

Not even more influential than Mase tbh.

2 Pac exists

Currently if cole, drake and kendrick hop on a track, kendrick would come in last

I listen to Kendrick like twice a year since 2017. Took me that long to realize dude was overrated as hell.

having the "greatest discographies of all time" convo is almost unfair if you bring jazz goats into the conversation because the volume of great music they often have is just insane compared to other types of music

Beethoven Out Now

Naw.

If we really want to keep it a buck, 2Pac and Lil Wayne are the two most influential rappers that we've seen.