I mean she could have absolutely been broader but sounds like she's standing up for worker's rights imo.

I feel like sometimes, people on here want to engage with arguments, not precisely knowing what the terms mean.

1. Chappell Roan definitely had health insurance the vast majority of her career.

2. The type of contractual stipulation that would have a company pay for benefits like healthcare and a salaried wage, which is what she's asking for, would have obligate her to work a lot more than she thinks.

People here complain about Playboi Carti not releasing music every year. You think they would let Carti or Frank get away with that if he was a salaried employee? Or if he had a healthcare plan subsidized by his employer?

3. She is an independent contractor. She is not an actual employee of the label. Why would they be giving her a salary? Or a healthcare package?

Is Drake supposed to get a health care package from each label that isn't his own? Or do they all need to pay him salary even when he's not dropping music under that label?

Anyway, people shouldn't be out here starving and healthcare should be subsidized. I just think you guys big up random celebrities who make good music on topics that they aren't knowledgeable about.

Loved it but she gave me power rangers movie villain vibes with whatever she is wearing

Imo, the only way for artists to get their dues while participating in the music industry is for them to look at their careers as a business rather than a passion project being funded by a third-party. That means actually educating themselves on the ins and outs to know what works and doesn’t work for them

Working with labels should be seen as a joint venture rather than gainful employment. The bigger issue lies in the fact that most people don’t want to invest in the “boring” part of running a business

Ur conflating how things are with how they should be

We arent talking about how it is. Obv its alrdy f***ed up. We saying health insurance should be more accessible for everyone and shes in the right for saying something

these new superstars didn’t learn s*** from the Really Big Shrimp drake n josh episode

I understand her, and to a larger extent, the artist’s plight but I think people like herself conflate equity with wanting to have it both ways because they fundamentally don’t understand how the business works

Like folks have mentioned ITT, if artists were legitimized as employees this industry s*** would be a lot more cutthroat and extraneous than it already is

I liked her speech. Whether it leads to real change is irrelevant. She used her moment to speak on something important to her that clearly effected her and effects a lot of other artists, seems genuine

This isn't a problem exclusive to the music industry.

Out of freak nigga curiosity who is presenting the award here

I'm crine

victoria monet

i’m not tryna apply to the “recording artist” role at my local major label tbh haha

Great and impactful speech, but unfortunately a white woman delivered it so it will fall on deaf ears

I think if Billie or someone said this it would go over better. Chappell doesn’t come across as very likable

All of this stuff from royalties to healthcare is only gonna come with musicians unionizing if we wanna get to real solutions

But that opens up so many other rabbitholes lol. Whatever you set up for artist healthcare (if it wasnt just you get it when you sign to a label), s*** so f***ed up in America rn that you’d hve regular people saying they artists just to get healthcare. Then there’s the food chain of who is profitable and who is not

But she’s absolutely real for doing that as the new white girl pop star who just won best new artist and coulda said anything and kept it moving

If I were to argue how things should be, I would state

I would argue that her record label shouldn't give her insurance. The government should.

If she wants a livable wage, she should sign a contract as an employee for the label where she is scheduled to work X times a week with Y output a year, and give them control over her creative output.

If she isn't going to do that, she should unionize for a livable wage and union based insurance.

Cuz u guys are letting this white girl finesse u into some silly argument.

A lot of these musicians are trying to blow up and get paid big with sold out tours. They're gambling in a high risk high reward industry.

They're not The Roots or an Orchestra who have scheduled shows at a philharmonic. You wouldn't be out here like Jay Electronica dropping his debut album 13 years after blowing up.

I agree with most of what you're saying

but I doubt that a label would let any artist sign a contract of that capacity

I’m conflicted because I think her heart is in the right place but she gives a false sense of hope for something that is literally unchangeable

Like in comparison to something like the NBA that provides those coverages for their players, the economies of scale for the average artist is infinitesimally smaller and most are unlikely to ever turn a real profit. Not only that, but someone like LeBron boycotting the league has way more of a ripple effect on revenue than say someone like Drake, especially when you factor in that the NBA is centralized and the music industry is not

If labels were required to make huge investments in all of their artists in the same manner as the NBA, music would no longer be an equal opportunity endeavor

You're right. The labels are predatory. You either blow up or f*** off. It doesn't really matter to them.

Personally if she was serious, they would unionize.

I don't like people appealing to greedy companies in America. Same with the healthcare shtick.

Last thing we need is more people being forced to work so that they can keep a health insurance plan.

Nah f*** hours she should just be signed to complete a certain # of projects in a timespan. Specifying hours is a lame ass approach imo

I respect the fact that she blew up and didn’t lose sight of who she is, or what matters to her. We all know labels are predatory and it’s always refreshing when someone speaks up against them.

well you can't have it both ways