Peaceful movement aren’t getting people anywhere. This is a violent occupation. PA and PLO did the peaceful route and now they are just lapdogs for the Israeli state.

I’m making lamentations to those who remain uninformed about the necessity of political violence

Once they understand Israel has no notion of peaceful/equitabel solutions to this then we can educate them on the need to support Hamas

I don't think any of the points you mention are realistic maybe with the exception of eliminating birthright and cracking down on the ultrazionist settlers. while there is of course an economic factor to the cycle under which has unfolded within the context of israel-palestine specifically, much of the conflict isn't really economic and is far more religious & ideological. i mean, for the most part the understanding of the conflict as colonial is definitely a more much more western/external - and if anything, a diaspora - one, it seen very explicitly as an ethnic one elsewhere. Even the language of the usage of colonialism into politics there largely came through external channels. I know this sounds antisemitic but it's just true in historical context - much of the issue is really just with the fact there's white european jews who came into the territory, unless the conversation focuses on how to fix it with that framing everything else is completely arbitrary. That said, it's not even really a purely jewish-arab conflict either, it really is largely between certain ethnic subgroups and european jews, and european jews there have essentially been further radicalized over the last several decades in a mirror to arab sub-ethnic groups there especially due to the unwavering backup they've received from the first world basically more or less since Reagan.

aint like elon turning down a check or missing out on an apartheid

I do think cracking down on those two is the first step in removing what ethnic motivations we can from this conflict

I think by those point though, the damage is done. Until it comes down to a war of attrition, European Jews will not leave the occupied lands

there is a good chance in your lifetime you see both those things cracked down on legally in some form in israel; not for any of the right reasons ofc, but solely out of domestic political partisanship. ultrazionism is not heavily supported outside of ultrareligious and ultranationalist sects, and even center-zionists parties are increasingly hesitant on the law of return because zionist settlers disproportionately are voting for parties such as Likud and supporting things such as the recent judicial & military reforms. there is probably more external support for many things such as law of return thanks to stuff like AIPAC. Of course, events like this are depressing as it likely has - in spite of the above - completely reset israeli ethnonationalism back to square one. I agree with you though that realistically the conflict will not solve itself until most european jews packup and leave, which is something they're completely aware of and no doubt is reinforcing their spite of wanting to stay.

And you wonder why this site is going to s*** says user who came in the thread about a possible genocide to celebrate a user getting banned on a kanye west fan site rather than discuss the topic

this is the wildest s*** somebody has said to me #onhere

f*** off Zionist

Its well deserved i believe

I’m very well educated on the history between Palestine and Israel, but can someone please explain to me why the US and UK are so unwavering in their support for Israel?

I can’t even fathom how the world doesn’t view Israel as a terrorist state, let alone support them without question.

lmao not even I said that because I saw someone say “Kanye was right” in regards to his antisemitic behavior last year

I also saw a ton of other disturbing posts

What the hell going on

Free Choking

Hell be back within the hour comrade

I cannot believe my Jewish friends are really on fb and ig asking for donations 😂

I’m really stunned at the audacity man

among other things:
incredible amounts of domestic lobbying esp from powerful post-war immigrants
regional military & economic interests
holdover of historical pushes for regional influence during geopolitical polarization
broad religious support, including from evangelicals
widespread propaganda focusing on "us vs them" principles given large amounts of white israeli settlers
widespread anti-muslims & anti-arab sentiment in the west
antisemitism since a lot of western countries don't want jews there either

despite what people may say the US was not always 100% a lapdog for israeli policy and a lot of this really was solidified under Reagan & HW Bush's admnistrations and then since then despite a few blips has more or less remained unwavering

These replies are f***ing insane

just logged on Hulu and the first thing in there is 20/20 israeli propaganda about this

my gf and i looked at each other so disgusted

Thank you brother.

I figured it was largely due to anti-Arab rhetoric and lobbying, but thought there had to be some more underlying causes.

Nothing stronger than the Israeli propaganda machine 👍 unfathomable that they have somehow made themselves the victims in this genocide

you f***ing dumbass, there would be no “israel” in the first place with no occupation