I’m not trolling

UN resolution 2334. Israel is recognized as occupying Palestinian Territories

All UN member states, including observers, are legally entitled to self defense as a means of deterring occupation. Occupying forces are legally deprived of justification of violent force against occupied populations

Bro is asking where Gen Z was 22 years ago.

There was a massive movement against Iraq involvement, if you don’t remember either

Bros argument is “nah y’all gotta be bloodthirsty just like your parents were 20 years ago lol”

The key words being "self defense" and "occupied territories" neither of which apply in the case of a bunch of terrorists storming into israel and slaughtering civilians.

Do you really think that the UN would support such an action?

You are morally bankrupt if you can support something like that. Rot in hell tbh

Afghan before my memory but in Europe the protests against Iraq War were huge, millions marching...

I know this a troll but f*** it i got time.

As a nigga who proudly came from an anti bush private school (also had a teacher who’s brother was a fireman that passed in 9/11. She didnt want that war to happen either)

See ppl that bring up the “Where was this energy during 9/11” expose their own ignorance to the fact it was HELLA anti-war grievances. The Dixie Chicks literally got blackballed because they protested the war.

The lack of social media at the time makes it so people can act like “nobody cared when America did it” but I’m telling you as a 4th grader who’s school took in foreign kids as well (and we had a lotta kids and high schoolers from the middle east) that had horror stories to tell?

We f***ing cared. One of the worst things America ever did, it’s why to this day niggas never celebrate july 4th.

Did you share this same sentiment when unarmed gaza protestors were shot down in 2018-2019?

Probably not.

Did you share the same sentiment during the sheikh jarrah protests in 2021?

Probably not.

Id respect a lot more zionists if yall just admitted yall want your get back. At least then yall honest to yall emotions.

Acting like its noble when bibi already rejected to free hostages and idf soldiers raising israeli flags on gaza land just makes people have to fight the urge to sock yall in the mouth.

The Zionist Project has no right to any of the land it lays on, and anyone/everyone who supports its continued existence is advocating for an apartheid state to steal land from a native population. They all deserve what comes to them.

Moral bankruptcy lays in you, fellow user, for somehow thinking Palestinians are the terrorists and not the multi-billion dollar militarist society of colonisers. It is a racist and pro-genocidal stance to take

When the Israeli delegation to the UN is openly desecrating the experiences of holocaust survivors by making, and pinning, massive yellow stars on their chests as they justify bombing children of journalists and shame the rest of the civilised world for detesting it, you really must ask who the terrorists are

The Vietcong were terrorists
Nelson Mandela was a terrorist
John Brown the Abolitionist was a terrorist
Fidel Castro was a terrorist

Everyone’s a terrorist until history absolves them

These people are incomparable to Islamofascist, jihadi death cults lol. Only extremely online Americans seem to be thinking like this. Picking a side and then inexplicably denying or worse, justifying the actions of the unrepresentive extremists on their side.

And what is the idf then

I dont even rock with the h**** but my once again where was this energy when niggas was getting shot unarmed outside the gate by idf forces in 2018-2019?

What exactly do/did yall want the Palestinians to do? @Mitch_Baker @Thot_Police @Dream

The IDF is currently controlled by an extremist far-right government whose popularity has plumetted since Oct 7. Every poll points to the Israeli public being resolved to remove the extremists on both sides. Hamas are the ascending voice in pro-Palestinian politics but even they are rejected by the Palestinian majority, despite having a barely functioning, corrupt PA as their only rival. You're delusional if you think extremism will ever be part of the solution.

Hamas are the ascending voice in pro-Palestinian politics

There hasn’t been an election in Gaza since 2007

Meanwhile Israelis let Bibi win because….?

extremist far-right government whose popularity has plumetted since Oct 7

Once again, one nation waiting til a haphazardly placed concert to be like “oh lol our government might be hella neglectful and bad” doesn’t actually help your point @Dream

I dont know what this false dichotomy has to do with it but you're listing two events that sparked worldwide outrage.

Whats the false dichotomy?

If the outrage wasnt enough for Bibi’s popularity to plummet BACK then, then what changed from then to now?

So much outrage that literally nothing happened as a result

Saying “yo we didnt really give a f*** about our government being evil until innocent lives suffered actual consequences of said government’s actions” does not help your argument.

This is pretty much how politics works.

Bibi has tried to manage, minimize the conflict. It spectacularly failed on Oct 7 and there has been a massive swing to the centre, rejecting the extremist far-right. How is that a bad thing?

Before Oct 7 there was also a normalisation going on between Israeli Palestinians that's worth noting, even in East Jeruaslem: washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/new-poll-reveals-moderate-trend-among-east-jerusalem-palestinians

Since Oct 7 Arab-Israelis feel even closer to Israel: reuters.com/world/middle-east/israels-arab-minority-feels-closer-country-war-poll-finds-2023-11-10

These trends show a clear rejection of extremism. That is a good thing. I don't know why more nuanced, anti-Extremist views on this are so frowned upon in online American spaces, it's really weird and tribal for some reason.

"I'm cool with a settler apartheid state as long as they're not 'extremist far right'" liberals are so funny man

Ignore 75 years of history & the asymmetry of the conflict to prop up your myopic worldview that can only grasp electoralism & polls from pro-israel """independent""" think tanks

Hope you get gunned down by extremists in GTA 6 fr

I feel like not enough IOF terrorists were killed

Bibi has tried to minimize the conflict

Thats why he said a Palestinian leader told Hitler to burn the Jews?

That’s why he said back in 2015 there will never be no statehood for Palestinians?

That’s why he propped up the Hamas in the 1st place?

Also should read your own sources when they highlight the reason most them think that way The current more conciliatory mood probably reflects their recent experience of access to Israeli health care, social welfare benefits, ability to travel both inside and outside Israel, and jobs during the past two years of Coronavirus issues. By comparison, most Palestinians across the security barrier in the West Bank have none of those advantages.

Crazy what happens when you dont have a country controlling every aspect of your country lmaoooo

Also

Notwithstanding all of the above largely pragmatic positions, some questions worded in religious, emotional, or politicized terms prompt agreement with more negative responses. For example, 23% of East Jerusalem Palestinians agree “strongly” with this assertion: “I sincerely worry that Israel wants to destroy the Al-Aqsa mosque and harm our religion.” An additional 46% agree “somewhat” with that sentiment.

I wonder how this survey goes if you asked these same people these questions on October 4th after Israelis stormed the Al-Asqa mosque?