Oct 9, 2023·1 replyCKL TMLThey been suffering for decades. Its time for change
Gaza will be wiped out if not all of Palestine
Oct 9, 2023
Sir RealGive nukes to Ireland
- AR15 💯Oct 9, 2023
Thread went from actual discussion about the conflict to memes and hot takes i hate this sxn
- Oct 9, 2023Sir Real
Hamas and Israel are actually in league on behalf of the Azeris to distract from the invasion of Armenia
Oct 9, 2023PleaseDeleteGaza will be wiped out if not all of Palestine
A fight gives them a chance, no matter how small
Not fighting gives them a guaranteed silent, unseen, unheard death
- Oct 9, 2023·1 reply
UZI FRENCH KISSfree palestine but Hamas attacking a music festival is terrorism, not "resistance" by any means.
If you’re occupying any stolen land then any respond is valid
- Oct 9, 2023Houston
If you’re occupying any stolen land then any respond is valid
lmao
imagine being so disconnected from reality that you think killing tourists and festival goers is gonna do your revolution any good. - Oct 9, 2023·2 repliesUZI FRENCH KISS
free palestine but Hamas attacking a music festival is terrorism, not "resistance" by any means.
Yh it hits too close to home.
I too have been raving on stolen land just a few miles away from the people I've put in an open air prison with the intention to slowly genocide them - Oct 9, 2023·1 replyeye contact
If you don’t think an oppressed peoples should fight back then you are complicit in their oppression and genocide
The acts of individuals collectively affect the world
I'm all for fighting your oppressors but they lost a long time ago
- Oct 9, 2023Aight
Yh it hits too close to home.
I too have been raving on stolen land just a few miles away from the people I've put in an open air prison with the intention to slowly genocide themS*** hits different when the shrooms kick in. Everything is connected bro
- Oct 9, 2023·3 repliesAight
Yh it hits too close to home.
I too have been raving on stolen land just a few miles away from the people I've put in an open air prison with the intention to slowly genocide themconsidering you live in america, you literally are raving on stolen land just a few miles away from the people you've put in an open air prison and made them watch you build an empire with stolen labor from stolen people from africa.
by your logic, killing white people could act as resistance too, right?
- Oct 9, 2023·2 repliesUZI FRENCH KISS
considering you live in america, you literally are raving on stolen land just a few miles away from the people you've put in an open air prison and made them watch you build an empire with stolen labor from stolen people from africa.
by your logic, killing white people could act as resistance too, right?
you're not gonna get the answer you want from a lot of people here with that question
- Oct 9, 2023·1 replyUZI FRENCH KISS
considering you live in america, you literally are raving on stolen land just a few miles away from the people you've put in an open air prison and made them watch you build an empire with stolen labor from stolen people from africa.
by your logic, killing white people could act as resistance too, right?
Would rather die than live in that s***hole
- Oct 9, 2023·2 replieskrishna bound
you're not gonna get the answer you want from a lot of people here with that question
it's just funny that they are role-playing as people who care. f*** off back to europe if you care about stolen land.
Oct 9, 2023·1 replyi do think within the coming weeks people more will begin to recognize how israel really is. especially after all this talk they've been spouting these last 2 days
but as of now, i would say it's crazy how much favor israel has in us media but then again israel is essentially an american venture
- Oct 9, 2023·edited·1 replykrishna bound
they never really had that much in common despite having the same origin. syrian baathism preceded iraqi baathism as the ideology was formulated there originally. it's quite hard to explain why specifically, but the simplest answer is that the ideology was formulated primarily by 3 people, with Michel Aflaq being the most prominent. Aflaq essentially was the spearhead of the movement and absorbed everything from the rest of the founders. However, Aflaq leaned very far into arab unity when he started going around to other arab countries outside of Syria, particularly Nasser in Egypt. Nasserism and Baathism were diametrically opposed but Aflaq believed in arab unity, so he essentially said he would be willing to dissolve syrian leadership and have the country be part of egypt's govt under nasser to allow arab unity. obviously this caused the rest of syria's political factions to go apeshit, and syria had a coup which caused Aflaq to flee the country and Al-bitar to take over - this instituted a new era of Baathism which abandoned pan-arabism and instead instituted a new form of baathism closer to say, Juche in north korea idoelogically (ironically there'd be ANOTHER coup in 7-8 years which is when Assad's family took over - this was seen as a "corrective movement" to baathism flailing under al-bitar, and the failures of the situation originating from the attempted PLO coup of Jordan, which was supported by Syria initially). the thing is that Aflaq didn't just disappear after the coup though - he simply went to Iraq. At the time Sadam Hussein and others were gaining power in the post-Monarchist Iraq, and allowed Aflaq to join the movement as they reincorporated their ideological position to Baathism to gain legitimacy as a middle eastern movement - shortly after Saddam rose to power successfuly with Aflaq as as secretary general of the Iradi Baath party however Aflaq died in 1989, and then this position was handed fully to Saddam. This - both with Aflaq and after -then created an intense level of hatred between the Syria & Iraqi baath parties which still exists.
Very informative! Ok, a couple more questions: How does the SSNP relate to the Ba’aths? Do you think there is a reason for why Ba’ath states became dominated by minorities (Alawites in Syria and Sunnis in Iraq) or was that just kind of luck? Also, do you think any of the various Arab federative/confederative attempts of the time had a chance (I tend to think they didn’t)?
- Oct 9, 2023krishna bound
you're not gonna get the answer you want from a lot of people here with that question
- Oct 9, 2023·1 replyrise zero
I'm all for fighting your oppressors but they lost a long time ago
So we should let them take it sitting down ?
- Oct 9, 2023
It’s difficult for many to say including myself but this is no different from any other colonial settler situation. The natives in North American, Oceania etc. this is the same thing just happens to be in the 21st century
- Oct 9, 2023UZI FRENCH KISS
it's just funny that they are role-playing as people who care. f*** off back to europe if you care about stolen land.
people feel a lot stronger about israel-palestine on avg than other comparable things because of not only the recency/ongoing nature of such, but also because it's a highly egregious example of a gravely ethnically motivated conflict, which to some degree people w/ certain backgrounds are going to feel innately connected to. if you were on a place with a lot of armenians & azerbaijanis, it'd be similar to their opinions on that, or indians/pakistani on india-pakistan, etc. However israel-palestine by comparison has much more roots in diaspora immigrants to english speaking countries in the west. not all of it is necessarily roleplay due to that, some people do have a sort of stake in it by means of ethnicity/ethnic connection. that said, yes, almost all online politics is LARP
- Oct 9, 2023UZI FRENCH KISS
it's just funny that they are role-playing as people who care. f*** off back to europe if you care about stolen land.
I will say, my people didn’t have a choice in the matter of being here.
- Oct 9, 2023
Israel is stolen land, sure. Palestinians are in the right to fight back, absolutely. They should take back their nation. All the support to them. But if you're not acknowledging the fact that Hamas committed war crimes by killing 200+ civilians and tourists who literally did not have anything to do with this, you should consider visiting a therapist.
Oct 9, 2023·5 repliesI find it hard to believe that Israel didn’t know about this attack before hand. I wouldn’t be surprised if they let it happen, just so they can have justification to obliterate Gaza.
What I wonder is why hamas choose to attack knowing this would likely be the response? Maybe they know or just hope other countries will join the war?
I really hope Israel doesn’t destroy the entire region- Oct 9, 2023·3 replieseye contact
So we should let them take it sitting down ?
Well no, you either *fight and die, like what's happening now, or you gtfo and rebuild. It's clear what route the powers of Palestine have chosen.
*terrorism and savagery in Palestine's case
Oct 9, 2023·1 replyChangeofheartI find it hard to believe that Israel didn’t know about this attack before hand. I wouldn’t be surprised if they let it happen, just so they can have justification to obliterate Gaza.
What I wonder is why hamas choose to attack knowing this would likely be the response? Maybe they know or just hope other countries will join the war?
I really hope Israel doesn’t destroy the entire regionisrael continues to ethnically cleanse without any repercussion. peace talks from palestine has not slowed down colonization. its a last resort