the expectations for a 12 min set where not a single song gets fully played is asinine from the few minority
i have no idea what they expect
also f*** em, kendrick did a send a message about his own state and culture, not some random factoid they want to pencil in - and someone from that state and culture especially since it was being clowned into the earth for until mtg, it did mean something
I don’t think Ghais is criticizing Kendrick for not being revolutionary but rather correcting the misconception of him being revolutionary by critics
The performance was highly critical but it was not revolutionary. It was never going to be. It’s the Super Bowl for f***s sake
Revolutionary thought, leaders and movements are always going to get co-opted by the ruling class in an attempt to console the masses. That's a given.
The frustration for me lies with the fact that someone like Kendrick will point out systemic issues and then never explicitly say the why even though we know he knows why. You're telling me the guy who made Institutionalized doesn't know capitalism is a death cult?
What do you mean say the why
He acknowledged it on Savior
But he’s surrendered his anger to serve his own personal self rather than the broad social paradigm
I choose me
Niggas just told me in another thread thwy dont wanna hear rappers talk about their hoods problems when they (the listener) have problems of their own
Lmao its always gon be something
I actually tried playing his album this morning but didn’t get through the second track. Didn’t even know he was “a part of the Super Bowl”
I thought he already abandoned the bullshit revolutionary gimmick and embraced being the next HOV
Kendrick as the new Hov is crazy but i almost can see how you could get there
His next project will determine whether its Pac or Hov lol
I actually tried playing his album this morning but didn’t get through the second track. Didn’t even know he was “a part of the Super Bowl”
lmao ok
He literally said this wasn’t a diss
And he’s right
Trump/MAGA is the equivalent/response to post Obamaism and that becoming the zeitgeist
This s*** get deep lol
He literally said this wasn’t a diss
And he’s right
He's right, we need more people with this thought pattern. Kendrick gets to enjoy the aesthetic of being a "revolutionary" but doesn't do any revolutionary s***.
I love the music hate the liberal white bread politics.
what are we talking about.
All of this is on idiots who have any expectations whatsoever for a artist to lead,begin,drive a revolution. That has literally never happened and never will happen
Activists lead revolutions. Kendrick isn't an activist and never claimed to be one.
It's people who think rapping a 16 bar on a drum beat has anything to do with activism.
The only thing artists do is describe, document, or highlight what's going on. That goes for any art form...music, painting, dance, whatever. You can be both a artist and activist but the two aren't connected at all.
Kendrick does a good job of documenting, people have to stop expecting him to be a activist. Less than 0.1 percent of humans have what it takes to be activists.
It's also a very very weird thing to try to force someone to be a activist given how dangerous it is to be one.
I appreciate so much that this site is even the only place that we can have a convo like this
I feel like its a constant ebb and flow of empowering Pac and Ye types and then those ethos just melting into the general zeitgeist and we end up back here underwhelmed (from a revolutionary perspective) with something like Kendrick at the superbowl
Yup
We can’t just have these super expressive and thoughtful guys and expect them to have a way advance their respected positions while simultaneously rejecting every offer from the institution
There have to be movements that can care for them for the to turn to over the powers that be
I actually tried playing his album this morning but didn’t get through the second track. Didn’t even know he was “a part of the Super Bowl”
Only thing I can recommend is playing it loud as possible and checking out his past albums and coming back to this one
His mixing def needs work but im pretty sure everything he does is DIY n in house
It's the Apple Music intro. His vocals aren't on it but it's his song. If you watch the YouTube video it's the first thing you hear
That’s insane! Good for him, tbh
I actually tried playing his album this morning but didn’t get through the second track. Didn’t even know he was “a part of the Super Bowl”
I think the second half is a lot better than the first half. The Super Bowl song is definitely one of the highlights "The Old Guard is Dead"
Album is the comedy and tragedy of being a rapper it's really fire
Technically it is - it is the most anyone has "spoken out" at a superbowl by far
but even then and if that wasnt the caas it was never made to be presented as that
but ghaid going on about how "theyre gonna still be complaining tomorrow"and ïdk what is being challenged"is clearly a dig directly. while acting like if he "did"do something "radical"then "those"people wouldnt be doing that tomorrow (which is just false lol, theyre already whining about how ëxtreme"it was from something of the alt right, they would just complain more if he had like a manican of trump hanging or something)
just comes off as "what have you done for me lately"or "still not enough". while ignoring the actual "radical: things that did happen, and the main thing, ignoring the artist's own vision and own wants
it just a stupid, moot, selfish and overall ridiculous thing to to say to that extent or to "wish" for
its the same energy people give to grammy speeches "why didnt so n so say this and this"when they have a minute to talk and half of it gets cut out. just like a lot of the monority s***ted on Chappell for who tried to do it but still got yelled at for "simplifying"it or not giving attentiveness/depth to it.
Ginormous W. Wonder who chose that music
what are we talking about.
All of this is on idiots who have any expectations whatsoever for a artist to lead,begin,drive a revolution. That has literally never happened and never will happen
Activists lead revolutions. Kendrick isn't an activist and never claimed to be one.
It's people who think rapping a 16 bar on a drum beat has anything to do with activism.
The only thing artists do is describe, document, or highlight what's going on. That goes for any art form...music, painting, dance, whatever. You can be both a artist and activist but the two aren't connected at all.
Kendrick does a good job of documenting, people have to stop expecting him to be a activist. Less than 0.1 percent of humans have what it takes to be activists.
It's also a very very weird thing to try to force someone to be a activist given how dangerous it is to be one.
MLK = activist: leads marches,hold speeches, attempts to change laws, etc
Musicians = artists: photographers taking pictures for King and his events, writers printing stories for the news papers, musicians making songs about desegregation, etc
Those are not the same thing. stop looking at artists to be activist. They are not.
And stop diminishing their impact. They are doing the work of telling the story and spreading the word, the two are just as important.
Technically it is - it is the most anyone has "spoken out" at a superbowl by far
but even then and if that wasnt the caas it was never made to be presented as that
but ghaid going on about how "theyre gonna still be complaining tomorrow"and ïdk what is being challenged"is clearly a dig directly. while acting like if he "did"do something "radical"then "those"people wouldnt be doing that tomorrow (which is just false lol, theyre already whining about how ëxtreme"it was from something of the alt right, they would just complain more if he had like a manican of trump hanging or something)
just comes off as "what have you done for me lately"or "still not enough". while ignoring the actual "radical: things that did happen, and the main thing, ignoring the artist's own vision and own wants
it just a stupid, moot, selfish and overall ridiculous thing to to say to that extent or to "wish" for
its the same energy people give to grammy speeches "why didnt so n so say this and this"when they have a minute to talk and half of it gets cut out. just like a lot of the monority s***ted on Chappell for who tried to do it but still got yelled at for "simplifying"it or not giving attentiveness/depth to it.
Feels like he’s more so critiquing the response by some black liberals to the performance and not the performance itself
He literally said this wasn’t a diss
And he’s right
This mf spittin
Technically it is - it is the most anyone has "spoken out" at a superbowl by far
but even then and if that wasnt the caas it was never made to be presented as that
but ghaid going on about how "theyre gonna still be complaining tomorrow"and ïdk what is being challenged"is clearly a dig directly. while acting like if he "did"do something "radical"then "those"people wouldnt be doing that tomorrow (which is just false lol, theyre already whining about how ëxtreme"it was from something of the alt right, they would just complain more if he had like a manican of trump hanging or something)
just comes off as "what have you done for me lately"or "still not enough". while ignoring the actual "radical: things that did happen, and the main thing, ignoring the artist's own vision and own wants
it just a stupid, moot, selfish and overall ridiculous thing to to say to that extent or to "wish" for
its the same energy people give to grammy speeches "why didnt so n so say this and this"when they have a minute to talk and half of it gets cut out. just like a lot of the monority s***ted on Chappell for who tried to do it but still got yelled at for "simplifying"it or not giving attentiveness/depth to it.
The general disposition to have a contrarian opinion right now is something that no one acknowledges lmao
Charlamagne and Budden lowkey the most influential