TragedyBerlusconi

2y

It's all true

Russia would have been better selling a few of the assets that aren't natural monopolies to investors overseas. These investors are going to want a return on investment so will pour FDI into russia.

Once the economy is improved, they can then distribute the remaining assets among the Russian population

We shouldn't get blamed for Yeltsin being stupid as s***

Scratchin Mamba

2y

Now who supported Yeltsin hmmm.. who interfered in the 1996 elections to keep him in power who sent economic advisors to Russia for the privatization of state assets and blocked policies that had proven to work better in other situation i rly wonder who that could have been

TragedyBerlusconi

2y

Gonna have to do the reading but pretty sure the process had commenced prior to 96

Scratchin Mamba

2y

Yes you do need to do the reading

The process started before 96, and the US had supported the Russian oligarchs in their process of privatization and supported their suppression of any political forces in opposition to that. Read chapter 6, especially the parts about Russia and Yeltsin

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjIp9a6uP35AhVdxQIHHUiiDPkQFnoECAgQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fvalleysunderground.files.wordpress.com%2F2020%2F04%2Fblackshirts-and-reds-by-michael-parenti.pdf&usg=AOvVaw1WZeBCkj72jE5yxIZgNi-7

Lou

2y

Forcing your nation’s children into prostitution for Pizza Hut and Louis Vuitton

TragedyBerlusconi

2y

I read it and while he is probably completely right about Yeltsin- on Poland he seems to unsubstantiate what he says about the procedures they took. Pointing out Vaclav Havel's upbringing being wealthy is a redundant point meant to make you dislike him off vibes. Countless communist revolutionaries have come from poverty yet bringing this up isn't helpful and doesn't prove anything. It's an ad hominem.

Also where he talks about polling procedures and focus groups being used to help Yeltsin, polling and focus groups are not vote winners themselves. No doubt he had us support but this doesn't seem like a rigging or anything

We haven't even got to Gennadiy Zyuganov's platform , which while he may well have been the initial frontrunner, he was without a doubt a dangerous man in his own right who found common ground with the nazbols and adopted genuine eurasianist ideology. It isn't helpful to think of the post soviet Russian communist party as much of a successor to the original, it was nationalistic and expansionist by its own admission. Ideology is as always just a route for a group to get what it wants under pretense

Scratchin Mamba

2y

And who cares about Zyuganov not having a great platform, the fact is that the US interfered in Russia's elections, it's not up to the US president to decide who gets to lead Russia

Scratchin Mamba

2y

Really? Everything about Havel was just ad hoc? Did you just skip over Havel joining the gulf war? Selling arms to Pinochet? Suppression of labor unions? Making it illegal to spread "class hatred"? Making being a communist punishable with an 8 year jail sentence? You don't think it's relevant that he himself took public property as his own private property? What the f*** is wrong with you bro

TragedyBerlusconi

2y

No, thats not what I said. I was referring to where Parenti points out his upbringing

And as for russia, zyuganov lost because after committing to repeal the Belzhev accords, he turned masses of voters off. He was leading for a long time but it's his parties actions that can be traced as the beginning of the end