Womanpuncher69

5y

Im not American either, I should have used western propaganda instead of American, but even then you dont need to be to be American to fall for American propaganda.

When someone Criticises China, most of the time its some BS propagandised version of China that doesn't exist, and when China and USA do something similar, the "criticism" China receives is blown out of proportion compared to the USA. We push back cause in the western world China is gonna be used to delegitimise leftist movements that are building here, whether those leftist movements agree with Chinas action or not.

I literally mention an event that Communist often critique and thats Dengs reform, if you want more examples I've often seen communist criticise China for example, the 996 working hour system, the private aspect of Chinas healthcare, or their foreign policy dealing with anti leftist regimes like Duertes. Critiques like these are rarely ever seen on this site, and the ones that are evil China is trying to murder us all, we're in thread that title that is China is preparing Nuclear War with the USA for f*** sakes.

Y0rn

5y

So cause in the Western world China is used to delegitimise leftist movements by right wingers you wont sway anyway, yall push back on critique on the Chinese government by saying bs like China is a democracy and the government is amazing for humanity?

Womanpuncher69

5y

China is a democracy, they have elections where they choose their representatives , and you don't need to be part of the communist party to run, you can run as an independent, and even among the party theirs variety of factions that wanna return to Maoist era policies, to even further liberalisation, the party isn't a hive mind. They're just a different form of democracy than the ones we are accustomed to, now that if its better or flawed or anything is another discussion.

For the China is amazing humanity part, I rarely see these takes other from idiots and idiots are part of every movement. China at best is a necessary evil, that provides poor countries another option than predatory loans sent by the IMF, which often force these countries into privatising.

Synopsis

5y

What did you ascribe to me that I didn't say? Hm, well first, I never called NK a great place to live. I never said anything about the countries governance nor how their government conducts itself in domestic affairs or pretending I'm caping for the Kim family lmao. Yet here you are, pretending as if I did. Weird s***.

And no one is moving the goalposts but you. Your little f***ing brain can't seem to understand subtlety I guess. But go ahead and tell me how a press controlled by billionaires is open and free? I need you to explain it because that line of thinking is truly baffling. Oh sure, they'll go on and pay lip service to the working class, but look at how quickly the liberal media itself mobilized against the most elementary assault on their class interest (bernie's campaign).

Let me just remind you, it is you that said the sanctions are keeping the people in the country poor. You literally said that. You have made no material a***ysis of the historical situation in the country, no deeper thought of the forces that have brought the country to where it is at in this point in time. Your entire a***ysis is "evil korean dictator guy bad" and it's embarrassing. like mao said, no investigation, no right to speak. follow that from now on and maybe you won't come off so much like a pompous f***ing airhead in the future.

Buckleys Angel

5y

Don’t be mad at the US cause you ain’t getting any

Buckleys Angel

5y

You have tried twice and got one like to post my avi. Do better. That should be easy work, have some sense.

You’re failing.

Y0rn

5y

Hey bro, for the 100000000 time i'm not American and i criticize the US system all the time cause they barely give any attention to 3rd parties while Americans can actually vote for them.. which is very weird imo

Again you try to distract from the subject which is China's 'democracy' (lmao) by complaining bout the USA. Again, where is the opposition in China?

Fundamentals

5y

Real ones knew this from the beginning

Y0rn

5y

Lmaoooo China and economic democracy? Sorry bro.. can i ask you how you came to this idea? Cause it's ridiculous

newgodlevel

5y

Communism baby

newgodlevel

5y

Communism baby

KuntaKinte

5y

Since the thread got locked and its the same OP and basically related
@JaniBaby

ok now let me school you f*** boy.... this is from today.. online theres been a large amount of young people complaining of similar issues, while seemingly rare this is for concern.
ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/heart-reaction-probed-by-u-s-health-authorities-as-possible-rare-vaccine-link-in-teens-1.5455897

Anecdotes are not facts

Not even going to type anything out. Article speaks for itself

now for the lab leak, your reasoning that it promotes xenophobia is insufficient of a reason to ban speaking about it, facebook and youtube banned speaking about it and this is a massive problem no matter what way you see it.

Youtube and Facebook are private companies and saw fit to ban people who were pushing xenophobic conspiracies under the guise of trying to find answers especially when many of these people were pushing it as fact.

If china created the virus and they should pay for this, especially since they basically blocked off their whole country from the infected and let them out of the country during Chinese new year. This does not mean people of Chinese origin should have any backlash regardless of what the outcome is, but the CCP should.......

If you want to blame anyone for the lab leak hypothesis not being taken seriously, blame Trump. 🙈🙈🙈
If you cover what may normally be a legitimate grievance in a xenophobic coating and its being pushed by xenophobes as the sole truth prior to any inquiry or research. Then yes, every normal person is going to ignore your theory and give credence to the academics.

now they have looked into natural origin more heavily than anything in the past and cannot find a source, there is no time when a virus has spread in nature this prominently where they didn't identify a source right away, them saying this was a conspiracy is a massive problem especially since the polybasic furin cleavage site PRRA thats in the genetic sequence has been used in the past by the same lab in other viruses.
This sequence would be almost impossible to naturally occur through mutation. This isn't conspiracy just what many virologists have stated.

Why are you spouting s*** you don't understand?

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9#auth-KristianG-Andersen

Even Fauci's email leak shows he has concern that US funded research in these labs could be responsible in email while telling the public around the same time there was no way it leaked from a lab, this was clearly for public deception for whatever reason.

What you said on KTT2: The virus most likely came from a lab
What Fauci was implying in his emails:

📣POST THE EMAILS FROM FAUCI WHERE HE SAID THE LAB LEAK WAS A SERIOUS CONCERN
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/06/03/alleged-fauci-smoking-gun-emails/

THERE ARE 3234 PAGES BRO

Find me exactly what youre implying
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/20793561-leopold-nih-foia-anthony-fauci-emails

https://www.wsj.com/articles/fauci-email-bolsters-the-lab-leak-theory-11622830092

1. THIS IS AN OPINION PIECE

2. NICHOLAS WADE OPINION PIECE

3. ITS AN OPINION PIECE FROM A GUY WHO USED TO WORK FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES AND NOW HAS TO FRATERNIZE WITH FOX NEWS AND THE CONSERVATIVE EDITORIAL BOARD OF THE WALL STREET JOURNAL TO GET HIS OPINIONS OUT

https://www.wsj.com/articles/california-leftists-try-to-cancel-math-class-11621355858?mod=theme_opinionmain-ribbon

https://www.wsj.com/articles/california-leftists-try-to-cancel-math-class-11621355858?mod=theme_opinionmain-ribbon

Never link me a WSJ opinion piece lmao

newgodlevel

5y

Communism baby

space0cadet

5y

yea this dude y0rn has no idea what hes talking about

read some theory big dog

understand socialism is the way forward