he's the guy for this generation of fans in high school, early college, and middle school

Ding ding ding. That’s the deciding audience for being the hottest of your gen and idk why anyone is denying Baby is the ‘hottest’ rn when he’s main guy of his gen who has this age range of hiphop fans in a chokehold rn

collab albums usually sell about in the middle of the two artists on it so from that i expect about 110k-130k from durk's next album and 230k-250k from baby's next album. seems fair to me.

But he didn't sell or chart the most. Which is my point.

Yeah, and biggie had the junior mafia tracks on the radio and remixes to the bad boy r&b groups tracks. I knew biggie was the hottest in 95 I just wanted to be confrontational lol.

Drake stans talking about drake 😆

C3 would’ve did 1M in 07
He was so hot all his album tracks kept leaking. C3 was suppose to be a 07 album.

People dont understand generations. It's why sports a***ogies are so valid for hip-hop. It's just a different time. There was a Bill/Wilt era, Kareem era, Magic/Bird era, Jordan era, Kobe/Duncan era, Lebron era, etc. Then theres people ranked after them that compete for that 2-5 spot.

If wayne died on 07 without releasing Carter 3 he would've been the biggest/hottest/best. Lol.

So my point is.
Of drake and baby both drop and baby has the better album/verses its his era

Rap fans don’t look at it like that though in 2021. They look at first week sales. If drake do 600k and baby do 250k they gonna say we still in drake era. CLB can be trash and if it sells more than everyone else album, they gonna say we in drake era.
Either way drake gonna have quality if drop a shorter album. The perfect drake album is 13-15 tracks

Haven't we been in the LeBron era for the last 18 years? Lol. No one is denying Lil Baby is the hottest rapper in the game. I'd also argue that Future was the hottest rapper in the game from 2014-2015.

Being the hottest rapper doesn't (always) mean you're the #1 guy. Same way Drake was the hottest rapper and Eminem was outselling him but he didn't become the #1 guy till he started scoring the biggest hits/albums and having the most impact.

The goalpost can't be moved for Lil Baby. If other rappers are out here scoring bigger hits than you and having just as much impact, you can't say you're the #1 guy. That's all I'm saying. Pop Smoke's album has been outselling Lil Baby's album since it dropped and by this time next year, it would have outsold it. Maybe even sooner. Pop Smoke's album also had more hits and that happened organically.

As special as 2020 was for Lil Baby, his peers like Doja Cat, Megan Thee Stallion, Roddy Ricch and DaBaby also had massive years with more impact. He only outdid them with his album. Lil Baby was outstreamed by Juice WRLD/Young Boy Never Broke Again last year so this narrative of him being the #1 guy, even for his generation, is immature.

Let Post Malone, Travis and others drop and let's see how he matches up with his peers across the board and THEN let's revisit that.

I'll say Lil Baby is outrapping most of his peers. He's also been the most consistent but he ain't #1 even amongst his peers and I don't understand this insistence that he is lol.

“I won't judge Lil Baby off the numbers this tape does but I will off his next album. If it's your era, your numbers and stats have to back it up. There are no excuses to that.” - @thegreatdivine

That being said if CLB outsells lil baby next solo album this era still belongs to drake 🗣🗣🗣

I get the point of there being a need for a new face of the new era of rappers but one is yet to emerge as the solid option yet imo and I don't get why Lil Baby is being pushed as the solo option when his peers are outdoing him in other metrics.

Until Lil Baby is the one out of his peers with the biggest hits, albums, tours, impact etc, no one can call him the #1 option of his generation.

I’m just happy to see these two young kings thriving brother

Lil Wayne did a milli alone 2 times that's crazy

130K+ for week 3???? That’s great

"Haven't we been in the LeBron era for the last 18 years?"

Uhh no?

"No one is denying Lil Baby is the hottest rapper in the game." You did suggest this lmao

Lol you don't understand the argument at all. Eminem wasnt the number 1 guy in rap in 2013 because he didn't have the new generation of fans on lock. He just had a large core audience and was a veteran people still went back and listened to. Being the #1 Guy just means you are the best of your generation. We define a generation when we see a number of rappers starting to stabilize themselves and have an impact on rap. Drake became the #1 around 2011 once we started to see a new generation. So, by 2013, it was pretty set in stone. This is further supported by the fact that people in college, high school, and middle school during this time talked about these artists more than other artists on average. This is why 8-10 years later, everyone around the age of 22-27 and maybe even close to 30 usually has these artists as their favorites because that was there era. It doesnt matter what other artists were doing at the time because those artists had a different generation on lock, a different core fanbase, and a different time. The same way older R&B acts can still sell well or sell out tours is applied here. There are new r&b acts buzzing and impacting r&b. Summer walker has a different generation than keyshia cole, beyonce, alicia keys. Alicia keys had a different generation than mary j. blige. Frank and the weekend have a different generation than Usher. You are putting too much emphasis into first week sales and ignoring the other variables which we bring up. Baby has an era because the generation right now growing up on him prefers him to his peers by a wide margin. If this wasn't solely his era, he would still have an era along with other rappers. The same way Pac/Big had an era.

Who is selling as much as Lil Baby from his era? Doja the cat isnt a rapper. She's an artist. If anything, she's more pop and r&b. Meg has hit records, her album didn't impact rap. She's also a female and females consistently get put in their own category. Nothing has changed. Roddy didnt have enough hits, didnt do enough on the side, and has never been viewed as a great rapper. Just artist. Dababy is fine but his album didnt have a large impact. Hit records, yes. Album? Nope. Lil Baby has outsold all of these artists, has hit records, has more memorable verses, songs, and is viewed more as a lyricist than the others.

Post is an artist, not a rapper. Travis is an artist, not a rapper. They both dont even consider themselves rappers like that. Not to mention travis is more from a different time than Lil Baby so it's trickier with him. They are more like Nelly than Jay Z. Baby is more like Jay Z than Nelly.

Lastly, Baby doesn't have to do drake like sales for it to be his era. I hate to say this but with all due respect, Drake never had sales comparable to prime Eminem. Drake has been running s*** since 2011. Those numbers don't compare at all. You can argue "well streams killed album sales" but when one just simply points out if streams existed back then, a ton of artists would have sold even more, that argument falls apart. Snoop would have sold more with streams. Biggie, Pac, 50, Em, Kanye, Wayne, T.I., Nelly, and even Lauryn Hill. Drake, like other megastars, also has a fanbase separate from rap which is why sales arent the entire picture. Impact is important. Baby has the streets on lock in a way only comparable to like 05 jeezy, t.i., and prime wayne. Baby also has respect from OG fans and rappers.

Drake was outdoing all his peers during his era, that's why we considered him the #1 guy, not just because he could rap. Many people will call Kendrick a better rapper/lyricist and say he has more classic albums but why hasn't he ever been the #1 guy? Because Drake always outdid him regardless with hits/albums/tours/impact.

Right now, Lil Baby's peers are outdoing him in many metrics. Travis and Post Malone are his peers whether you regard them as "rappers" or "artists". Both of them can sell out arenas, Lil Baby can't. Doja Cat/Megan Thee Stallion/Roddy Ricch/DaBaby had bigger hits than him last year. That's another metric he got beat in last year. Juice WRLD/Young Boy NBA outstreamed him last year. Another metric he got beat.

The ONLY thing he beat them in was that his album sold more. That's all and in a few months, Pop Smoke's album will outsell his so he won't even have that title for much longer.

You don't become the #1 mainstream rapper of any generation simply because you can rap better than some of your peers. A culmination of factors decide that and Lil Baby doesn't check enough boxes to be considered the #1 guy (yet) imo.

I said 150k minimum. These are good numbers for them because collab albums don’t even be doing big numbers like that.

@NawfsideRanger your point about Drake's sales compared to other rappers from the past holds no water. The only rapper Drake hasn't outsold is Eminem and he surpassed everyone else in less than 10 years. He also has dozens more hits than any other rapper. He's outdone every legend in every category commercially except Eminem in terms of album sales and he'll surpass Eminem before he retires lol.

Ya writing essays now ?