Yep if they're counter revolutionary and or directly working with the U.S
Not if they're protesting for good reason, that's bad OFC
I appreciate that last sentence a lot.
But do realize that regarding the first sentence, even if they were counter revolutionary and directly working with the U.S., that innocent people will very likely get hurt, if not solely innocent people.
I don't think violence is the solution to anything. Especially when you call upon the people to act vigilante.
oh? i thought the worst president of all time as ranked in 2021 by the presidential historians survey said something:
oh? i thought the worst president of all time as ranked in 2021 by the presidential historians survey said something:
https://www.c-span.org/presidentsurvey2021/?page=overall
Buchanan was the very worst president of all time. I appreciate the interest in my username. It originally came from a joke here when I saw his name mentioned. I think it even was about who the worst president was or something. Fun fact, he was actually the president before Lincoln too! Also might have been a homosexual or Asexual
One more time then. The original quote.
"The order to fight has been given - into the street, revolutionaries."
No call to violence apparently. No endorsement to fight in the streets by the Cuban leader apparently.
Lmfao how is this a call for violence
Which is exactly why Trump should be in jail for inciting violence, at the very least. Capitol storming is one of the worst political crimes in America, of all time. A direct threat to democracy.
Nobody gives a f*** about Trump and it's funny how you assume that
I appreciate that last sentence a lot.
But do realize that regarding the first sentence, even if they were counter revolutionary and directly working with the U.S., that innocent people will very likely get hurt, if not solely innocent people.
I don't think violence is the solution to anything. Especially when you call upon the people to act vigilante.
Violence is bad! Except if an embargo causes hardship and excess illnesses and deaths, then it's good!
Anyone who sticks with the “stateless, classless, moneyless” society version of communism is a child living in a fantasy world. They will be dead and nothing even remotely close to whatever that is will exist. So I’ll take state communism whether it’s in name only or not, it’s at least practical. You want actual progressive policy done, you need to think about politics in a functional reality.
Give it a little thought.
It's not, you're reaching hard and deep down inside you know this too.
Nobody gives a f*** about Trump and it's funny how you assume that
Ok? It's a very similar topic of "what is inciting violence", which was the point.
Anyone who sticks with the “stateless, classless, moneyless” society version of communism is a child living in a fantasy world. They will be dead and nothing even remotely close to whatever that is will exist. So I’ll take state communism whether it’s in name only or not, it’s at least practical. You want actual progressive policy done, you need to think about politics in a functional reality.
Communists believe in both dawg. Ur right in the short time there will be a state, later it will decentralize to the point it cannot be called a state in the current sense anymore
Communists believe in both dawg. Ur right in the short time there will be a state, later it will decentralize to the point it cannot be called a state in the current sense anymore
Not gonna happen
Violence is bad! Except if an embargo causes hardship and excess illnesses and deaths, then it's good!
Just like dictatorships are good, am I right?
By the way, I am also against the Embargo and I think it is a crime against humanity.
Not gonna happen
Thats literally what communism means bro
The difference to anarchists is that communists believe there must be a lengthy transition stage called socialism in between
Cuba is a socialist state in that sense and has a communist party guiding the transition
Just like dictatorships are good, am I right?
By the way, I am also against the Embargo and I think it is a crime against humanity.
Dictatorship = anything that doesnt fit my pre-conceived notion of Western parliamentarianism
It's not, you're reaching hard and deep down inside you know this too.
How. I honestly don't get it. I understand you have an agenda and all, but what else does he have to say before you see it as inciting violence? He literally said that people should fight and go into the streets to face the protestors. How can you you see that as not inciting? Even if it wasn't intended that way, how could it possibly not incite people?
Thats literally what communism means bro
The difference to anarchists is that communists believe there must be a lengthy transition stage called socialism in between
Cuba is a socialist state in that sense and has a communist party guiding the transition
You’re aware that the writing on communism and what form exactly it will actually take is hugely debated and has been for over a hundred years. There’s plenty of different schools of thought on this beyond the basic “authoritarian/libertarian” divide between the left.
How. I honestly don't get it. I understand you have an agenda and all, but what else does he have to say before you see it as inciting violence? He literally said that people should fight and go into the streets to face the protestors. How can you you see that as not inciting? Even if it wasn't intended that way, how could it possibly not incite people?
Because ur completely ignoring the context of this speech
Post the full speech and he is even sympathetic to the honest protestors
Dictatorship = anything that doesnt fit my pre-conceived notion of Western parliamentarianism
Dictatorship = no real elections and the same guy is in charge for 50 years while he's hoarding the peoples wealth.
Dictatorship = no real elections and the same guy is in charge for 50 years while he's hoarding the peoples wealth.
So like the US
Presidents change, but US policies barely change, why?
You’re aware that the writing on communism and what form exactly it will actually take is hugely debated and has been for over a hundred years. There’s plenty of different schools of thought on this beyond the basic “authoritarian/libertarian” divide between the left.
Im on ur side dawg
Ur right that this endstage might not happen in our lifetimes
Im just saying thats the theoretical endgoal as of now
Im on ur side dawg
Ur right that this endstage might not happen in our lifetimes
Im just saying thats the theoretical endgoal as of now
Gotcha, I’m with you too. I just would rather not get bogged down in the theoretical and aim towards more grounded possibilities.
Dictatorship = no real elections and the same guy is in charge for 50 years while he's hoarding the peoples wealth.
Democracy is when red and blue team change and both serve the corporate interests but feign differences so the proles can treat it like rooting for their sports team
Democracy is when the richest 3 people own more than the bottom half of the country combined
But at least u can vote for one of two candidates with some alibi third party candidates thrown in
Anyone who sticks with the “stateless, classless, moneyless” society version of communism is a child living in a fantasy world. They will be dead and nothing even remotely close to whatever that is will exist. So I’ll take state communism whether it’s in name only or not, it’s at least practical. You want actual progressive policy done, you need to think about politics in a functional reality.
why do y'all always sit here and talk about "progressive policy"
mfer, we want more than a few bread and crumbs. we want the workers to own the means of production, we want the end of US and western imperialism, we want the end of all exploitative relationships
So like the US
Presidents change, but US policies barely change, why?
Because the usa is a horribly flawed country that needs to get it's act together and move towards a social democratic policy while reforming the entire process and things like the electoral college and the supreme court.