Im not your plug, be the master of your own destiny
Y would u not want to share music on a music forum ur weird
Nigga putting states and countries like it matters. They all under the Chief Keef tree. Every single one of them lmao
Yes. A 16 year old kid changed rap forever. Kind of crazy right?
Putting Pop Smoke under the chief keef tree is just rimboculous
Im not your plug, be the master of your own destiny
Ur cool underground music taste totally exists it just goes to another school
Only thing stagnant is this topic
On god. These niggas listen to like 10 rappers max and be saying “hip hop is losing its touch!” Well yeah my nigga you only listening to a small sample portion of the genre lmao. Michigan and Detroit been going too crazy.
Losing X and Juice lowkey more impactful than PAC and Big dying.
At least they still had Jay and then Em and DMX popped up. And Outkast and Lauryn Hill was still pushing things forward.
X and Juice dying (and Peep to lesser extent) literally killed a whole new sound from developing
Edit: in terms of pushing the culture forward. PAC and Big died and gangsta/bling bling rap still kept flourishing for another 5-7 years.
X and Juice died and Uzi falling off literally killed the emo/rage/SoundCloud era
These high profile rapper deaths didn't keep the scene from flourishing, the shallow talent pool did that. I guess you could say that makes their deaths extremely impactful but, again, it points to larger problems in rap.
And for what it's worth, rap did go through a doldrums period after the death of Pac and Biggie. Nobody looks back on 97-99 that fondly.
Not that crazy
Nas started making Illmatic when he was 16 too
True. Nas gets credit for it. We’d go as far as calling him a genius. Keef doesn’t get nearly the credit he deserves for that tho.
Thank you for sharing i will listen to all of these later
Uzi
X
Juice
These 3 were gonna be the leaders musically, aesthetically, and culturally for they’re generation just like Drake Kendrick and Cole.
X and Juice dying really f***ed up the game.
And I feel like they’re lack of energy negatively affected Uzi’s artistry cuz he hasn’t touched LIR2 since.
Lil Peep dying plays a part too, say what you want but that emo/rage SoundCloud era was different unique and spoke to a generation just like the blog era spoke to mine
Current era we in has no direction, no narrative. Everyone just putting out projects and songs just cuz
Carti lowkey the only one keeping things interesting.
Culture would’ve been in such a fascinating space with X Uzi Juice Peep and Carti leading the way.
If them niggas was gonna lead the new generation then we was f***ed either way
True. Nas gets credit for it. We’d go as far as calling him a genius. Keef doesn’t get nearly the credit he deserves for that tho.
People have an inherent bias against non lyrical rap unfortunately
X was really his generation’s PAC, it was more than just music. He reached and inspired ppl in a deep way
Juice was really like Biggie in that he made great catchy music so effortlessly
Stop comparing every dead rapper to Pac
X was a c00n don't put him the breath of someone who fought for black liberation even before fame
Putting Pop Smoke under the chief keef tree is just rimboculous
How is he not?
Who started Drill music? These niggas are literally calling it drill themselves. Idgaf about the beats bro these little niggas is drilling on wax because of Sosa. Denying this is outrageous Lmfao
I’m literally from NYC saying this s***. Like even the beefs they rapping about is some baby Chicago s*** highkey
These high profile rapper deaths didn't keep the scene from flourishing, the shallow talent pool did that. I guess you could say that makes their deaths extremely impactful but, again, it points to larger problems in rap.
And for what it's worth, rap did go through a doldrums period after the death of Pac and Biggie. Nobody looks back on 97-99 that fondly.
I agree with your first point about the pool of talent being shallower that’s why X and Juice dying pretty killed the SoundCloud/Rolling Loud emo wave
I disagree about 97-99 thou. Big and PAC dying allowed new artists and existing artist to flourish
Jay Em DMX Outkast Lauryn Hill Big Pun all reached new levels during that time
People have an inherent bias against non lyrical rap unfortunately
Only point I’ve been tryna make this whole time.
The current big 3 bridged the gap. I think it’s difficult to pinpoint who is going to be the next big 3 because they all don’t really got bars like that so there’s a lot of niggas that aren’t gonna really give ‘em tgat credit. Especially if they drop a dud.
Bro PAC’s death impacted in the form of literally every black male artist from 1998-2003/4 being required to be hyper masculine and sexual in some overt way in order to be huge - and not just rap, I do mean every black male artist
And even further, rappers like DMX/Ja/Em/50 are examples of PAC’s direct influence
This kinda proves my point
The kind of image and music PAC and Big made continue to be at the forefront of hip hop
X Juice and also Peep dying literally killed the emo SoundCloud wave
That’s what I mean by more impact.
Only point I’ve been tryna make this whole time.
The current big 3 bridged the gap. I think it’s difficult to pinpoint who is going to be the next big 3 because they all don’t really got bars like that so there’s a lot of niggas that aren’t gonna really give ‘em tgat credit. Especially if they drop a dud.
Only person I can see doing it is Lil Baby if he’s really in his rappity rap bag
I will listen to these later as well
Only person I can see doing it is Lil Baby if he’s really in his rappity rap bag
Yea there’s a couple I think can do it. Baby and Uzi.
We’ll see tho. I think a couple will be some random little niggas we don’t know yet.
This sounds like a bad thing
It’s a very bad thing don’t get me wrong. But impact wise it’s a big deal lol
if it weren't for Pac, gangster rap as we know it wouldn't even exist, and honestly the world would probably be better for it
Pac was more conscious than gangster though. He rapped way more about real life, Black issues, and about his mental state than he did stereotypical gangster stuff.
Ironically, Biggie's raps were way more grimy and gangster than Pac's. Biggie even rapped about raping and robbing people whereas Pac rarely took it that far.