Hip Hop/R&B experiences its sharpest Billboard market share decline since 2023

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  • goretex 💁🏽‍♂️
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    raps

    Jay or Drake has to be (proverbially) sacrificed to make way for the next Mt Rushmore tier artist

    ur not lying

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    Jim Halpert

    was randomly watching lebron playoff highlights with Miami the other day and was like damn we ALL used to watch this s***

    EVENTS

    i was glued to my TV every single game. once wade's knees started going in 2012 he had to FIGHT

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    Jbreezyondeck

    I’m kind of curious though because I think the school of thought is pretty binary that this is either terrible or a great thing, where do you ideally see things going? I’m kind of in the middle on this topic. I think it’s important that hip hop has some viability commercially because that helps garner interest and exposure to the next generation but I also think it’s clearly been over-saturated and we’ve been scraping the barrel for years now. I don’t think there’s any “putting it back in the box” so to speak because it is a mainstream genre so I feel like a best case scenario would be interesting

    Hip-hop doesn't need commerciality to thrive creatively, but it's definitely a lot more fun when it's popping culturally

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    insertcoolnamehere

    one of the most mid years for rap we've had in a long time lol.

    drake
    zay
    krit
    keem
    earl
    Kenny mason
    Vinny stape (was eh but still good)
    ye
    tip
    juicy j

    I feel like I'm eating man idk

  • XavierMane

    I said it before the current Atlanta-centric era needs to be over already.

    No offense to them guys but they been runnin the same playbooks for over a decade. And every new rapper runs to them for features then fall off in 3 business days.

    Being from there I agree.

    But also, other regions need to step the f*** up.

    New York's mainstream decline is something nobody on this forum wanna talk about.

  • Everyone has been telling me this is a good thing

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    Classique

    i was glued to my TV every single game. once wade's knees started going in 2012 he had to FIGHT

    we all watched man

    I'd be at a random Applebee's and people were glued.

    and I was in damn Tennessee

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    Jim Halpert

    was randomly watching lebron playoff highlights with Miami the other day and was like damn we ALL used to watch this s***

    EVENTS

    The last NBA Finals were the highest rated finals since MJ so events are still happening.

  • Valentine

    I implore ya’ll to PLEASE show me the other genre examples taking over so heavily with hiphop “dying” holy f*** framing got ya’ll talking about hiphop like it’s still not got the most weeks at number one every year Jesus Christ bruh

    We've showed you the information numerous times yet you keep acting like it doesn't exist

  • Ghetto Lenny

    Those are artists that have been in the game since the early 2010’s. We know there are still super starts but the genre is not producing any new ones. Thats the problem.

    Don Toliver, Ken Carson and Carti literally on arena tours

    21 savage just did a $42M tour last year

    Rod Wave has 3 #1 albums and multiple arena tours

    Doechii had a huge year last 2 years plus Glorilla

    ya’ll gotta stop it man

  • Ghetto Lenny

    The last NBA Finals were the highest rated finals since MJ so events are still happening.

    good to hear

    maybe we're veering back

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    Valentine

    Thug got a whole new collective under him with they own original motion in less than 2 years post prison?

    you talking bout the collective that is going viral for semen?

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    SABMAN TURNT

    excuse me?

    -was literally copping pleas when hard r dropped sab let's not do this.

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    Ghetto Lenny

    The last NBA Finals were the highest rated finals since MJ so events are still happening.

    it's bc of the knicks and living in ny/nj my whole life it was CRAZY

  • shaleirose

    Hip-hop doesn't need commerciality to thrive creatively, but it's definitely a lot more fun when it's popping culturally

    Definitely doesn’t need it but I do think it did spark creativity over the previous decade at least

  • Classique

    it's bc of the knicks and living in ny/nj my whole life it was CRAZY

    that's a good thing!

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    Jim Halpert

    drake
    zay
    krit
    keem
    earl
    Kenny mason
    Vinny stape (was eh but still good)
    ye
    tip
    juicy j

    I feel like I'm eating man idk

    .....yeah, one of the most mid years for rap we've had in a long time.

    I also think people automatically think mid automatically means bad. I'm actually using mid in its proper term

  • Valentine

    Travis just did a stadium IN AFRICA and Cole about to follow with Dot doing stadiums in South America and Asia but hiphop is dead man you niggas f***ing got it

    You always bring up venue sizes for 40 year old rappers when we have these discussions

    Their cemented success has no correlation to the lack of interest in NEW hip-hop music by NEW hip-hop artists

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    Jim Halpert

    we all watched man

    I'd be at a random Applebee's and people were glued.

    and I was in damn Tennessee

    im not tryna be one of those old heads like we're seeing some of the GOATs rn and I think shai is so overhated but lebron marching to the finals every year was very special

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    Valentine

    that has not ALWAYS HAPPENED again, framing s*** that don’t exist. hiphop niggas weren’t doing stadiums and 70+ show arena concerts every other year can ya’ll PLEASE STOP THIS BULLSHIT BRUH hiphop is fine

    Specifically making the requirement stadium tours when its travis kendrick and cole (2 of the big 3 and mcdonalds fortnite man) is one thing but niggas like 50, Wu Tang, Em, etc and that type of artist the narrative has always been that when they fall off in America they still have years of being able to do shows and tours in Europe and Africa

    Where/how the f*** do you think Tony Yayo is eating caviar pancakes nigga lol

  • insertcoolnamehere

    .....yeah, one of the most mid years for rap we've had in a long time.

    I also think people automatically think mid automatically means bad. I'm actually using mid in its proper term

    I gotta say i think more than half of those are like 8s which is really good imo

    also just July. fall and winter is always raps time to shine so I've been pleasantly surprised with a fun spring and summer

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    Classique

    im not tryna be one of those old heads like we're seeing some of the GOATs rn and I think shai is so overhated but lebron marching to the finals every year was very special

    and I'd watch a f***in warriors regular season game to see those brother splash on em pause

  • Easily the worst decade of hip hop of all time and it’s not close

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    the fact we gotta add juicy j and TI and KRIT (one of my favorite artists of all time but his peak has long passed) to this list of great rap albums is proof this is been a mid year

    and I loved that tape and Kenny Mason's album. If not for familial tragedy I would've went to see him live that week he came up to nyc.

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    insertcoolnamehere

    the fact we gotta add juicy j and TI and KRIT (one of my favorite artists of all time but his peak has long passed) to this list of great rap albums is proof this is been a mid year

    and I loved that tape and Kenny Mason's album. If not for familial tragedy I would've went to see him live that week he came up to nyc.

    Kenny Mason not being more popular is a shame.

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