May 8, 2023·1 replyFax bro
If the rise of the LGBT pop stars and the Latino stars hasn’t been the wake up call idk what is
There hasn’t been a rap superstar in years
Only a couple that have runs, or small moments
Rap is seen as a trampoline now, to move on to something better (until a revolutionary artist comes and changes the sound and inspires a new wave of great hip hop music), whether it be fashion, commercials, liquors, movies, etc
May 8, 2023
KayTrayYeah Hip Hop is in a huge decline rn but only good things will come from this imo. It’s going to weed out the vultures. I predict that lyricism will make a come back and we’ll see a rise in creative rappers again.
The last time Hip Hop had a huge decline was around 2008 during the snap music era and that ushered in the wave of Drake, Kendrick, Cole, Rocky, Cudi, Chief Keef etc.
- May 8, 2023·2 repliesKayTray
Yeah Hip Hop is in a huge decline rn but only good things will come from this imo. It’s going to weed out the vultures. I predict that lyricism will make a come back and we’ll see a rise in creative rappers again.
The last time Hip Hop had a huge decline was around 2008 during the snap music era and that ushered in the wave of Drake, Kendrick, Cole, Rocky, Cudi, Chief Keef etc.
Snap era = tik tok era
We getting through a slump of repetitive rap, and new artists will come and change the game again
May 8, 2023Fit is fresh
May 8, 2023I'll save it.
- May 8, 2023·1 reply
HOV INNOCENTIt’s not hip hop. Culture is dead. There will never be a vital music or art movement again
Latin music isn’t the replacement, social media is. People will still listen to music but the need for it isn’t the same. Social media has replaced the desire for art for most regular people. Music is just a secondary thing, something for the background of a meme.
In the past decade, any intelligence and consciousness of the public has been conditioned out. Art can’t thrive in these conditions.
The corporations won
Dam
- May 8, 2023
May 8, 2023userDam
He kinda right tho. And any time mfs complained about it niggas got called dust heads or old heads or whatever lol
- May 8, 2023HOV INNOCENT
It’s not hip hop. Culture is dead. There will never be a vital music or art movement again
Latin music isn’t the replacement, social media is. People will still listen to music but the need for it isn’t the same. Social media has replaced the desire for art for most regular people. Music is just a secondary thing, something for the background of a meme.
In the past decade, any intelligence and consciousness of the public has been conditioned out. Art can’t thrive in these conditions.
The corporations won
This is why gaming is so big. Bigger than movies, music, etc.
It's involved art, you feel creative doing it, and consuming it is content (Twitch, YouTube etc). You can't do it in the background, and you don't need an attention span or to have any insightful take. It's intuitive and visceral.
It's mindless drivel btw. Get a real hobby.
- May 8, 2023KayTray
Yeah Hip Hop is in a huge decline rn but only good things will come from this imo. It’s going to weed out the vultures. I predict that lyricism will make a come back and we’ll see a rise in creative rappers again.
The last time Hip Hop had a huge decline was around 2008 during the snap music era and that ushered in the wave of Drake, Kendrick, Cole, Rocky, Cudi, Chief Keef etc.
2008 was an economic decline which tanked consumption. Now consumption is very cheap.
It was also a rough transition period as rap ascended into actual pop music. Not 50 signing hooks on gangster rap songs. Not a guest vocalist on the hoook. Actual pop songs. Kanye Drake Cudi. You saw TI ride the burgeoning trap sensation into pop stardom. All of that has now been fully saturated.
It's also very easy to make music now and anyone can have the same programs on their laptop. Any sound gets ran into the ground immediately. They aren't limited by album cycles.
Idk man, it's not just rap. It's all just endless productivity and the second something new catches it's played out. We're also overexposed and can access it all with ease and so are conditioned to get bored easily and want novelty constantly.
Still plenty of guys in their 30s making mature and smart raps. Idk why we need to wait for a special crop of children that aren't coming.
May 8, 2023TheSmokeMonsterSnap era = tik tok era
We getting through a slump of repetitive rap, and new artists will come and change the game again
Who ended Up surviving the Snapchat era?
May 8, 2023HOV INNOCENTIt’s not hip hop. Culture is dead. There will never be a vital music or art movement again
Latin music isn’t the replacement, social media is. People will still listen to music but the need for it isn’t the same. Social media has replaced the desire for art for most regular people. Music is just a secondary thing, something for the background of a meme.
In the past decade, any intelligence and consciousness of the public has been conditioned out. Art can’t thrive in these conditions.
The corporations won
Good post.
May 8, 2023·1 replyi think production is mainly the issue. there is probably less craft involved in making a song that sounds ‘current’ than ever before.
the production of the 00’s and early 10’s seemed pretty difficult to replicate without extensive practice and work. nowadays you can just take a loop off splice, put some 808’s under it and you can end up with a beat that wouldn’t sound out of place on a lot of modern records.
i think this fast food approach to beat making for sure rubs off on the artists who are selecting these beats. making uninspiring beats has been too rewarding for how accessible it is and now you’ve got a situation where everyone is sick of this sound but have minimal inspiration about where to take it next.
- May 8, 2023A HIGH RANT ABOUT THE DECLINE OF HIPHOP
BRAVEEDIT: WHY would non-well known niggas or underground rappers be included in this, use your f***ing brains use some common sense this only applies to mainstream and generally well known rappers
https://voca.ro/1oeLbR5dbtcx
- BRAVE
Yes HipHop is losing popularity quickly.
The next decade of music is pop-punk and pop-rock and well as dance-pop
EDM was popular for a minute but what hasn’t been popular in decades is dance-pop (think The Weeknds latest albums, Beyoncé’s Renaissance, Drake Honestly Nevermind)
For pop-punk I recommend checking out things like Glaive (check out the song heather and other tracks from that album)
Also check out Kenny Hoopla (How Will I Rest In Peace If I’m Buried By A Highway, Hollywood Sucks)For pop rock stuff check out the new Fall Out Boys album (check the song that has 10 years in parenthesis out) or the new Paramour album (Big Man Little Dignity or the song after it to start) also check out Eric Doa song strangers.
- May 8, 2023HOV INNOCENT
It’s not hip hop. Culture is dead. There will never be a vital music or art movement again
Latin music isn’t the replacement, social media is. People will still listen to music but the need for it isn’t the same. Social media has replaced the desire for art for most regular people. Music is just a secondary thing, something for the background of a meme.
In the past decade, any intelligence and consciousness of the public has been conditioned out. Art can’t thrive in these conditions.
The corporations won
I see your point but you’re going to the extremist pessimist take
Culture will always exist
It’ll just be a lot harder to break through now
If I take an extreme optimist take, I would say it’s EASIER now to make culture with the power of social media, you can influence mass amounts of people now with it
May 8, 2023KayTrayYeah Hip Hop is in a huge decline rn but only good things will come from this imo. It’s going to weed out the vultures. I predict that lyricism will make a come back and we’ll see a rise in creative rappers again.
The last time Hip Hop had a huge decline was around 2008 during the snap music era and that ushered in the wave of Drake, Kendrick, Cole, Rocky, Cudi, Chief Keef etc.
That’s what I was saying. If history repeats itself then this is that era where rap wasn’t that good and then a wave of dope ass rappers came out
- May 9, 2023TheSmokeMonster
Snap era = tik tok era
We getting through a slump of repetitive rap, and new artists will come and change the game again
Nah snap era was more like the SC era if anything
May 9, 2023
babylon sherm· editedRap can’t be dying. Did jazz die or did it get turned into elevator music by lizard people & artists got embarrassed? Is jazz dead now? If anything rap fans are high on the fat of the land from it’s rampant successes on every front. We f***ing suck. Support an indie artist in any way beyond streaming service pocket change lately? Not really. Looking for artists beyond the first page of your streaming service? Not really. Found any artists you like that didn’t get to you by a viral meme or someone getting a check to be Cool? Not really. Going to see local talent in your area? Not really. Having constructive discussions about the music you do listen to? Not really. The biggest rap forum and our definition of writing creatively is either who can post the dumbest or quippiest s*** possible. Our attempts at being poetic or critical towards the art or artists rarely ever seem to go without some degree of irony or snideness. When it’s done in sincerity, it’s usually about the same 20 albums that everyone here grew up with. 90% of all music conversation here is either going “this is dope!” “This sucks!” about something generally already discussed enough to guarantee replies day after day. We say rap media sucks, and it does, so who does better? How many times do you see “the blog era”, “new blog era” etc come up here? Pretty much daily. Can we name one rap blog we read regularly? No, but we can give you the most annoying explanation possible about how blogs aren’t blogs any more, they’re tastemakers, it’s fine that all I watch is ads because ads replaced the independent writing I’m nostalgic for, following the business of the ads is actually more stimulating than the music LMFAO This site emulates the rap journalism and rap media it hates in every way, constantly. We parrot it back and forth to each other, adopt it as jokes, make it a meme, grow nostalgic and warm towards it, fall in love with the old ways of marketing and pine for them to return. That’s healthy? That’s how the major artistic achievement of the 21st century stays alive, let alone popular? Rap can’t die, it can only be abandoned and returned to. But people in this thread will tell you it’s dead, art is dead, it’s not worth it anymore. Well, shut this s*** down then
yessir this nigga spittin
goretex 💁🏽♂️May 9, 2023i know this nigga aint put no thrist trap/blackproof in op
- goretex 💁🏽♂️May 9, 2023TheSmokeMonster
Fax bro
If the rise of the LGBT pop stars and the Latino stars hasn’t been the wake up call idk what is
There hasn’t been a rap superstar in years
Only a couple that have runs, or small moments
Rap is seen as a trampoline now, to move on to something better (until a revolutionary artist comes and changes the sound and inspires a new wave of great hip hop music), whether it be fashion, commercials, liquors, movies, etc
cause niggas aint been going hard enough
only one close is drake kanye and hov
May 9, 2023I remember this discussion when Lil Wayne was running rap. Now I look at rap today and I bet the people complaining back then wish Wayne was running s*** again, lol.
May 9, 2023·1 replywhen you have stupid bullshit like this climbing the charts you can see why people are starting to be embarrassed listening to the mainstream stuff
- May 9, 2023·4 replies
DanhustThank trap
yup, no one wants to admit it and i got s*** on and called a “””white hipster””” for it, but the prevalence of trap has been a double edged sword for hip-hop
on one hand it has allowed the genre to blow up and become more popular than ever, without trap, rap music wouldn’t had reached the peaks and seen the popularity that it has most likely
on the other hand, how simplistic it is to make (along with advances in technology that makes music making easier than ever) allows people to churn out some of the most derivative, soulless, redundant s*** out over and over again with little to no consequence
it’s also a bit of a conundrum, because no one wants to experiment and risk missing out on profits or alienating their fanbases, versus just shoveling them the same tired bullshit over and over again, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it pretty much
- May 9, 2023
that's why having access to old music is key. if you don't like what's out now, listen to old s*** with quality.
May 9, 2023·1 replywhy is there a selfie in op?
