I love you ilias

Full h***

sorry to hear bro.

I hope life has been better for you since then.

Who said that?

everyone that says you're sensitive for even bringing this topic up.

Thread getting spicy

Inn for a spicy thread.

A lot of people think this way and it isn't confined to hip hop lmfao how you think evangelicals feel on this subject

I’ve skimmed through the thread and although I personally don’t condone any homophobia I also understand where people are coming from when they discuss the foundation of hip hop and who/what it was built on. I think both things can be true. Unfortunately it is an extremely complex topic that probably can’t be had on here with full discourse

“ Yup. Hip hop never followed rules. Spoke their mind and did what tf they want. Even if it involves killing people selling d**** or being homophobic. That’s what makes it great. Not being politically or moral correct.”

@ilias i express the sentiment 💕 sorry that happened to you, stay strong King

There's more than that. And if they want to be trans even more.

White liberals have an issue criticising hip hop for this stuff because they are scared they might appear racist.

Hip hop is filled with homophobia, sexism, transphobia and promotes violence and d****.

The majority of people that buy rap records are white -- and that's with Hip Hop being historically hostile to mainstream white America -- but you wouldn't expect artists to change up their vocabulary and switch up their political views to make white people feel more comfortable. Why do you expect the same for anyone else?

The reality is that no one is going to end their biases or change their outlooks to make you feel more comfortable in this arena. If you're gonna listen to Hip Hop, whether you're white, gay, a woman, a transgender, or whoever, you have to accept that people aren't going to cater to your feelings. Just like RuPaul's Drag Race ain't gonna give a s*** about how some Conservative feels about their show. Just the truth

but the thing is, everything starts from somewhere has to improve. That's what evolution means. Foundation is something you build upon and you have to have it grow.

The f*** we look like as a community if we out here still validating the same issues and phobias that we was dealing with 30 years ago? We shouldn't be afraid to grow with the culture.

not if you just accept them for what they are, your f***ing child that you support through whatever gender/sexual choices they decide to do.

I do not vibe with queers

Half of homophobia is just dudes joking because for some reason it's funny to act homophobic

I don’t disagree with you but for change like that it’s not going to be radical it’s gradual. Things are already getting looked through with different lenses and I think people are starting to view certain stances within the general hip hop community outdated. The only issue I have with this is when people act like this is exclusive to hip hop and doesn’t exist in other platforms and I think some other people were attempting to say this but obviously did not say it in the best manner

I'm just saying at least give them the same opportunities.

if a gay man or a woman or a trans person is talented and people know it, their lyrical content shouldn't be presented as a barrier to them because "oh no one wants to hear about that gay s***"

Word?

The same audience that had no issue with Cappadonna literally telling niggas he love b****es like he loves his d*** size?

cause it's a looooooooot of rap lyrics where straight niggas talk about they d***s. like straight up.

It is

how?

no sometimes it can help clarify what you're talking about...

for example, Ben Simmons got some good D... pause

Damn that's so sad, sorry to hear mate.

It isn't just exclusive to hip hop BUT when hip hop is the popular genre, it will be highlighted as such.

But also, a lot of the other genres have definitely made way bigger strides in that direction than hip hop has. (e.g. Steve Lacy, Phoebe Bridgers, Syd, Frank Ocean (mad people when the CO liner notes came out on OF forums was saying he was saying it for promo), Me'shell Ndegeocello, Sam Smith, Durand Bernarr, Tiffany Gouche, hell by the time Tyler came out he was already branching out genre wise)

But I'll say this, I think it's corny as hell America only really gives LGBTQIA+ representation in music the bigger spotlight in general if you're a bisexual woman strictly based on the fact that bisexual women have been fetishized for so damn long but a queer man won't get the same spotlight. (I'm saying in general, before yall niggas that never heard of a cakes da killa or a Le1f or a Zebra Katz quote me with Lil Nas X because he fills your "I know 1 gay black artist" quota)