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  • Mar 19, 2021
    Jayson Tatum

    no sometimes it can help clarify what you're talking about...

    for example, Ben Simmons got some good D... pause

    except if you watch basketball you know what good D means. you wouldn't have to pause to begin with.

  • Mar 19, 2021
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    insertcoolnamehere

    not if you just accept them for what they are, your f***ing child that you support through whatever gender/sexual choices they decide to do.

    You act like it's just a kid that needs glasses you buy them and problem solved lol

    No way something like that is easy for the parents.

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    Danhust

    You act like it's just a kid that needs glasses you buy them and problem solved lol

    No way something like that is easy for the parents.

    I think if more parents just treated it like a kid that needed glasses and you bought them and problem solved then more queer kids wouldn't feel so neglected

    Your perspective makes it sound like the kid coming out is doing the parents a disservice lmfao, that's why your logic by definition is backwards.

  • Mar 19, 2021

    I really advise a lot of people in this thread to actually talk to gay people instead of just theorize about em tho. A lot of things in this thread sound like yall only exposure to gay people was through that one white man in Fraiser.

  • Mar 19, 2021
    suzuki

    A lot of people think this way and it isn't confined to hip hop lmfao how you think evangelicals feel on this subject

    hip hop is the main power in music now so critique is necessary and for the better

    subject change neither solving nor dening the issue

  • Mar 19, 2021
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    I think if more parents just treated it like a kid that needed glasses and you bought them and problem solved then more queer kids wouldn't feel so neglected

    Your perspective makes it sound like the kid coming out is doing the parents a disservice lmfao, that's why your logic by definition is backwards.

    It's not just about how you treat the kid, the rest of the world also matters.

    And I was just saying that most people don't want a gay kid. Nothing wrong with it. If it happens, it happens, but it's not like people are looking for it.

  • Mar 19, 2021

    Same niggas talking about rap being a no holds bar get mad at jack harlows gay jokes

  • Mar 19, 2021
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    insertcoolnamehere

    I'm just saying at least give them the same opportunities.

    if a gay man or a woman or a trans person is talented and people know it, their lyrical content shouldn't be presented as a barrier to them because "oh no one wants to hear about that gay s***"

    Word?

    The same audience that had no issue with Cappadonna literally telling niggas he love b****es like he loves his d*** size?

    cause it's a looooooooot of rap lyrics where straight niggas talk about they d***s. like straight up.

    I concede with you on that one bro "you so fine I wanna suck your daddy's d***" yeah yeah I know the context but cmon now

    Ultimately I agree with you, but the change has to happen organically. Running up into a hostile arena talking about how offensive the culture is isn't how attitudes change. It's done through forcing them to respect you -- like Rah Digga or MC Lyte didn't come on the scene talking about how misogynistic rap lyrics can be and begging for acceptance. They just destroyed their male peers on records. Puerto Ricans didn't come on the scene with their flags waving talking about how unfair it is that rap is considered a black artform. They just rapped and made their talent undeniable.

    My point is, and I articulated this badly in the first post, isn't that you should suck it up and admit defeat. It's that pleading for equality never works -- you have to force people to respect you through showing and proving, and that requires being impervious to any insults or slurs that might upset you.

  • Mar 19, 2021
    Danhust

    It's not just about how you treat the kid, the rest of the world also matters.

    And I was just saying that most people don't want a gay kid. Nothing wrong with it. If it happens, it happens, but it's not like people are looking for it.

    the rest of the world'll be s***ty to you regardless of how you look or who you decide to f***.

    The point is for you is to have a place your kid can come to as a sanctuary when the rest of the world decides to s*** on them.

    When the world makes your child eventually seek out therapy, the goal is to not be THE REASON they're in therapy.

    "most people don't want a gay kid." You saying there is nothing wrong with that is literally everything wrong with that. My nigga are you dense??

  • Mar 19, 2021
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    BIGGWAVE

    how?

    The fact that you need to disassociate so strongly from a group of people is a phobia towards them, “Yo!! Don’t think that about me. Pause pause!! Naaa”
    It’s homophobic

  • Mar 19, 2021
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    DuragDillinger

    I concede with you on that one bro "you so fine I wanna suck your daddy's d***" yeah yeah I know the context but cmon now

    Ultimately I agree with you, but the change has to happen organically. Running up into a hostile arena talking about how offensive the culture is isn't how attitudes change. It's done through forcing them to respect you -- like Rah Digga or MC Lyte didn't come on the scene talking about how misogynistic rap lyrics can be and begging for acceptance. They just destroyed their male peers on records. Puerto Ricans didn't come on the scene with their flags waving talking about how unfair it is that rap is considered a black artform. They just rapped and made their talent undeniable.

    My point is, and I articulated this badly in the first post, isn't that you should suck it up and admit defeat. It's that pleading for equality never works -- you have to force people to respect you through showing and proving, and that requires being impervious to any insults or slurs that might upset you.

    "like Rah Digga or MC Lyte didn't come on the scene talking about how misogynistic rap lyrics can be and begging for acceptance."

    One of the biggest hits in hip hop was literally a Jersey female rapper calling men out for calling them hoes.

  • young slimer 4ever

    my favourite rapper wore a dress allow it fam

  • Mar 19, 2021
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    I despise homophobia but I still think pause is funny. It’s like “that’s what she said”. I get how it acts as a host for homophobia, though, and how it began as a product of h\*\*\*\*panic and not merely a harmless running s\*\*\*joke.

  • insertcoolnamehere

    "like Rah Digga or MC Lyte didn't come on the scene talking about how misogynistic rap lyrics can be and begging for acceptance."

    One of the biggest hits in hip hop was literally a Jersey female rapper calling men out for calling them hoes.

    So she refused to be offended and threw the insults right back at their faces, rather than beg for respect?

  • Melz ⚜️
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    It’s genuinely wild to me that so many people in the world hate on being gay

    Like why are you 10x softer than the people you try to call soft

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    Pause is not homophobic lol

  • Mar 19, 2021
    cotton dockers

    I despise homophobia but I still think pause is funny. It’s like “that’s what she said”. I get how it acts as a host for homophobia, though, and how it began as a product of h\*\*\*\*panic and not merely a harmless running s\*\*\*joke.

    I agree, it really depends on how it’s used. No one should have to say “pause” after telling their friends they love them. It shows you’re insecure and don’t want to be perceived as even remotely gay. Using the emoji or saying pause in jest is another thing.

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    Melz

    It’s genuinely wild to me that so many people in the world hate on being gay

    Like why are you 10x softer than the people you try to call soft

    Tbh coming out of the closet and living your truth seems like something that takes a lot of courage, that in itself is some masculine s***. Letting your nuts hang (metaphorically) and presenting your true self knowing people are gonna hate you is for lack of a better word, badass

  • Danhust

    You act like it's just a kid that needs glasses you buy them and problem solved lol

    No way something like that is easy for the parents.

    What's hard about it? As a parent your only job is to protect, support and love your child. How does them being gay make any of that difficult? The only thing that could make those duties hard is if you're homophobic.

  • Mar 19, 2021
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    SHAQUILLE

    Pause is not homophobic lol

    if used in a no h****context you're using it to explicitly stress that you aren't being gay because being gay is weird and wrong and stupid and I like to have s***with lots of women and big titties bouncing in my face

  • Mar 19, 2021
    blonded

    if used in a no h****context you're using it to explicitly stress that you aren't being gay because being gay is weird and wrong and stupid and I like to have s***with lots of women and big titties bouncing in my face

  • Mar 19, 2021
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    MyLeftBrain

    The fact that you need to disassociate so strongly from a group of people is a phobia towards them, “Yo!! Don’t think that about me. Pause pause!! Naaa”
    It’s homophobic

    its not that deep bro lol

  • Mar 19, 2021
    BIGGWAVE

    its not that deep bro lol

  • Mar 19, 2021
    blonded

    if used in a no h****context you're using it to explicitly stress that you aren't being gay because being gay is weird and wrong and stupid and I like to have s***with lots of women and big titties bouncing in my face