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  • I didn’t listen to music back then but I remember seeing on here someone saying kiss land was a flop. I thought he didn’t become a star till like 2015?

  • Apr 15, 2022
    Opium Commander

    I didn’t listen to music back then but I remember seeing on here someone saying kiss land was a flop. I thought he didn’t become a star till like 2015?

    he didn't become a starboy until 2015

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    Also was the drake stimulus a thing back then?

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    he was popular with people who were super into hip hop/r and b but not white suburban moms yet

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    Don Makaveli

    he was popular with people who were super into hip hop/r and b but not white suburban moms yet

    If the casual audience wasn’t into him why was it considered a flop?

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    maybe 1/20th the size

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    Opium Commander

    If the casual audience wasn’t into him why was it considered a flop?

    cause The Weeknd thought Pretty, Wanderlust or Belong to The World would do well on radio/pop charts

    old fans wanted Trilogy back

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    neon

    cause The Weeknd thought Pretty, Wanderlust or Belong to The World would do well on radio/pop charts

    old fans wanted Trilogy back

    that makes sense, back then it would’ve needed radio play to get big right?

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    Opium Commander

    that makes sense, back then it would’ve needed radio play to get big right?

    It was a rarity to hear any Weeknd song back then

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    Opium Commander

    that makes sense, back then it would’ve needed radio play to get big right?

    yes but he also just wasn't huge

    he had a large die hard fanbase that was into alternative music and rap / r&b but he had little pop music or mainstream fans

    he'd do bigger numbers on tours than on records which I think showed he had a hard-core internet following

    like he sold out the Hollywood Bowl without a single hit song

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    Opium Commander

    Also was the drake stimulus a thing back then?

    it was but Live For was not received well and did not get a lot of airplay.

    I think he gave a lot of his best songs away for Take Care and after the 3 GOAT mixtapes Kissland wasn't really popular.

    For reference about 8 months or so before Kissland came out I saw The Weeknd at my uni for $20

    He didn't blow up until the 50 shades of grey movie and he made Earned It

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    neon

    yes but he also just wasn't huge

    he had a large die hard fanbase that was into alternative music and rap / r&b but he had little pop music or mainstream fans

    he'd do bigger numbers on tours than on records which I think showed he had a hard-core internet following

    like he sold out the Hollywood Bowl without a single hit song

    Kinda crazy he did crazy tour numbers like that without hits

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    FredVanYeet

    it was but Live For was not received well and did not get a lot of airplay.

    I think he gave a lot of his best songs away for Take Care and after the 3 GOAT mixtapes Kissland wasn't really popular.

    For reference about 8 months or so before Kissland came out I saw The Weeknd at my uni for $20

    He didn't blow up until the 50 shades of grey movie and he made Earned It

    U saw him at ur uni before kissland that’s crazy did a lot of people go

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    He was still pretty mysterious but known
    Think pre die lit Carti

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    Jody

    He was still pretty mysterious but known
    Think pre die lit Carti

    Oh yeah I remember pre die lit Carti, so cult fan base pretty much.

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    Opium Commander

    Oh yeah I remember pre die lit Carti, so cult fan base pretty much.

    Yep me included

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    Opium Commander

    U saw him at ur uni before kissland that’s crazy did a lot of people go

    Wasn't full if I recall The Arkells sold out our uni's club and The Weeknd didn't.

    I went to see him in Toronto and it was $35

    Trust me he was popular with his fanbase but he wasn't big where he's charging $200 at the Raptors arena for nosebleeds face value

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    Saturday

    Vladtv

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    Opium Commander

    Vladtv

    Mf...

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    i mean, his biggest hit was wicked games and was mostly known for his features in take care in that time.

    i would say he was like a c/d tier artist back then in terms of fame

    right now he is an S-tier artist in terms of fame

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    How big was The Weeknd when he dropped kissland?

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    Kiss Land is still so misunderstood. Truly his best project imo.

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    In ‘12 I vividly remember him performing at a dive bar in my city where tickets were $25 and it was standing room only

    Club had to be able to fill up maybe 250 people max and I recall it didn’t sell out until maybe the night of the concert

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    Opium Commander

    Also was the drake stimulus a thing back then?

    Yes