KAYTRANADA

2y

you do realize our modern technology needs an the most resources in history to sustain

Marble

2y

How do you envision us running out of resources and what happens then?

Marble

2y

How do you envision us running out of resources and what happens then?

user

2y

Nigga everything just gon start melting one day

ARCADE GOON

2y

1. It won't be the success of socialist nations that gets the ball rolling but rather the failure of capitalist nations in the future.

2. Marxism doesn't mean just revolutionary phrase-mongering and so on. Karl Marx himself (if we wanna get to the source) advocated for both short-term reforms and long-term systemic changes in the form of a revolution. Karl Marx wrote a party program for the French Worker's Party and had stuff in it like "equal pay for both genders", "minimum wage according to living expenses of workers", "no foreigner shall be hired with a wage less than domestic workers" and so on, all goals that would have been great for French workers at the time (and still are) but wouldn't necessarily need a revolution to be passed.

In fact, you do need short-term reforms and community organizing to gain trust and support. For example, the 3rd largest town in Austria now has a communist mayor. She and the party there had a hotline for tenants and helped them out if their landlords made trouble. The people came to trust the communists there and gave them their vote.

Now obviously, communism won't be enacted through the ballet box. But you have to start somewhere and most Marxists never opposed partaking in elections. Lenin himself stated that communists should partake in elections and also engage in reforms so as to gain the trust of the people and guide them towards communism by making them aware of their own class interests.

So maybe your view of Marxism is tainted by online retärds and ultraleftists. Traditionally, Marxism was always about both reforms and revolutions, not just one without the other.

ARCADE GOON

2y

1. It won't be the success of socialist nations that gets the ball rolling but rather the failure of capitalist nations in the future.

2. Marxism doesn't mean just revolutionary phrase-mongering and so on. Karl Marx himself (if we wanna get to the source) advocated for both short-term reforms and long-term systemic changes in the form of a revolution. Karl Marx wrote a party program for the French Worker's Party and had stuff in it like "equal pay for both genders", "minimum wage according to living expenses of workers", "no foreigner shall be hired with a wage less than domestic workers" and so on, all goals that would have been great for French workers at the time (and still are) but wouldn't necessarily need a revolution to be passed.

In fact, you do need short-term reforms and community organizing to gain trust and support. For example, the 3rd largest town in Austria now has a communist mayor. She and the party there had a hotline for tenants and helped them out if their landlords made trouble. The people came to trust the communists there and gave them their vote.

Now obviously, communism won't be enacted through the ballet box. But you have to start somewhere and most Marxists never opposed partaking in elections. Lenin himself stated that communists should partake in elections and also engage in reforms so as to gain the trust of the people and guide them towards communism by making them aware of their own class interests.

So maybe your view of Marxism is tainted by online retärds and ultraleftists. Traditionally, Marxism was always about both reforms and revolutions, not just one without the other.

TragedyBerlusconi

2y

precisely

central planning gets you hard results in the short term when youre building up from being either completely bombed out, or an agrarian pre-industrial society. you get to skip a lot of steps. you eventually run out of juice though when you have to start contending with consumer goods beyond just developing industrial capacity. USSR hit this roadblock

before the ussr entered stagnation, some of the most popular econ textbooks were literally arguing the superiority of their system, the idea that western economic thought has always vilified central planning is fallacious. it took the actual failing of it for this bent to fall in popularity.

you will encounter the economic calculation problem

as for cybernetics, ill have to read those articles. in principle it sounds way more workable than central planning, by a long shot, i still have some concerns for individual freedoms but that could just be me on my lib s***

Scratchin Mamba

2y

Yeah .. his worldview is really full of contradictions

That's what being a mindless contrarian does to a mf

Scratchin Mamba

2y

Yeah .. his worldview is really full of contradictions

That's what being a mindless contrarian does to a mf

Water Giver

2y

This is powerful of what's going on the last two weeks

user

2y

Nigga everything just gon start melting one day

ARCADE GOON

2y

THE MARKET WILL DECIDE

SEGA GOON

2y

If you only knew how bad things would get

Scratchin Mamba

8mo

Goated article still gonna order the book soon