Usually when you hear about the internet and social media having an effect on the social fabric, it’s usually about Twitter, Facebook, or Reddit. But how come youtube isn’t at the top of peoples lists?

Just heard that Youtube inadvertently became the biggest childrens entertainment network (Coco Melon has the highest US subscriber count) and we all heard about Elsagate.

Youtube has the echochambers, the insane comments, the political meddling, and can easily send a person down a rabbit hole

Nothing will ever be worse than Tik Tok

TikTok did way worse

YouTube made a generation of depressed kids but TikTok is making a generation of psychopaths

i think it's because people don't view YT as a social network and more as like an unregulated form of entertainment. People are worried about appearing contrarian in the same way people who say stuff like "music this generation is ruining the kids" or i dunno, a old person may have said a few decades ago "cable TV is ruining this generation". People think of YT as just a medium to be served entertainment and don't want to sound out of touch, whereas stuff like IG, Twitter, etc. don't exist within that same realm since the external reputation is a lot worse and it's more compartmentalized in terms of usage

youtube laid the foundation

you're on point

anyone who knows someone born after the year 2005 knows that youtube has just as much if not more of whatever we might call a corrosive effect on young people

the problem is that ppl of our generation (I'm assuming we're contemporaries) also have a relationship with youtube (I was just watching old Super Bowls that the NFL uploaded on there twenty minutes ago)

so ofc we feel inherently defensive of it whereas tiktok is an external target we don't identify with

youtube was def the start of the mass popularization idea of people as products to be consumed. while obvious "figurehead consumerism" has always existed (celebrities & artists), youtube (and video sites in general - none of which exist anymore besides YT anyway) laid the groundwork online for bridging the gap of celebrity between this insane unobtainable realm of existence and everyday life. the idea of people entirely as consumable products - which you know see embedded in the DNA of places like tiktok - was really way more influenced by early YT & other videosharing sites than anything else. Companies like Twitter & FB only came into that space later; they didn't decide their business model until years down the line, and they (in the beginning) only encouraged local network socialization. YT was one of the first sites to outright be like "we're gonna connect you with everyone everywhere simultaneously". This then followed in terms of monetization and notoriety. Even when early video meme culture started, it was always sharing YT clips on other social networks - YT was always at the center of it all even when it wasn't. Almost every early internet celebrity was a video celebrity

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YouTube had the likes of Filthy Frank and Leafy as some of its most engaging creators for time and still didn't have as bad of an impact as TikTok. I think the combination of algorithm, ease of getting into TikTok and how inflated numbers are(you can easily garner thousands to tens of thousands and followers and millions of views and yet it doesn't really mean a lot because of the sheer volume of content and users on the platform) all led to jealousy of others and a bigger need/desire of becoming famous

Average youtoomer attention span

Two brain cells

YouTube paid to be displaced from the discussion

why do you people join text-based forums online if you don't want to read go talk to your friends on discord or some s***

yea but to paraphrase @krishna_bound the creation of the concept of a youtuber helped establish the cultural conditions for the tik tok universe

sure it's structurally more addictive, but it's not quite disaggregated from earlier ways of being an attention seeker on the internet in video form that would have been impossible without youtube

this is an AI image generating board

Youtube made it okay to pull your phone out and record someone at the slightest provocation tho

Singlehandedly destroyed privacy in public spaces

i think we do lol

like that whole gamergate s*** going on w/ youtube set the internet back like 10 yrs lol

It's all our fault

none of which exist anymore besides YT anyway)

WORLDSTAR

oh hell nah

actually a pretty good point tbh, forgot about worldstar. feels like theyve lost a lot of their relevance though

If you’re around kids then you realize the effect youtube has on the youth.

F*** Let’s Play gamers that advertise to kids just for views & still act like total degenerates with no accountability

Sounds like bad parenting to me

And f*** CocoMelon