It's lowkey cause of her older boyfriend.
When she got in a relationship with that older guy. It kilt her youthful fantasy madonna s***appeal and her momentum.
Yeah it was weird that she switched up so quickly into wearing super revealing clothing, going for a more mature aesthetic, and dating old white men. It just ruined her appeal and what made her so popping to begin with is her anti-pop aesthetics. I took a look at her IG though and it seems she's back to wearing the baggy soulja boy early 2000s outfits, wouldn't be surprised if she pops out with a black boyfriend to seal the deal again
She first blew up with label push off her mixtape. Ocean eyes got a lot of people looking at her off playlists like pollen on Spotify
The label she had did multiple remix competitions which were a decently big deal back then
Troyboi did one of the remixes, for my boy, which did get really big for an indie-alt-edm-female led song
Then the label pushed her a lot harder up to when her album came out.
Before bad guy, she was a weird indie-ish singer that white women in college liked, but didn't obsess over. I looked at her like tove lo and s***
She didn't come out of nowhere, it was a very slow ass rise that just hit a peak in 2019
Her first hits from 2016
Was a really big fan of this one/this guy. Shame after he dropped an album with dudes like ice cube he pretty much just fell off tho
U know this thread isn’t supposed to be hate right?
I don't hate Billie I really like her music smh
Viral with Ocean Eyes in 2015
Signed in 2016
Don't Smile at Me ep in 2017
Lovely with Khalid in early 2018 🚀
It’s one thing to not like her music, which is fine, to each their own. It’s another thing to construct a series of conspiracies so you don’t have to believe a teenage girl can make music. The amount of vitriol being thrown at a teenage girl by grown ass men is frankly insane, especially considering the amount of false information being spread about a completely harmless pop artist.
Let’s break down some of the crazier things tons of people on Reddit are saying...
‘Her parents are heavily connected in the industry and she’s only famous because they’re famous.’
Oh really, who are her parents? Are they house hold names? Wait, no, they’re low level actors with a few bit parts to their name and one low budget movie they made together. The biggest role either of her parents have gotten is voice acting on Mass Effect 2. They’re not record producers, they’re not famous musicians, they’re not elite media types. They’re unknown artists who probably have less clout in the industry than a small town radio DJ. You’re telling me they had enough power to make her music career go off, but not enough to make their own careers go off?
‘Her music and image are formed by her label, she’s made by a committee.’
She co-writes and makes all her music with her brother in his small room in their parents modest, middle class house. Need proof? Here you go. They’re weren’t uber wealthy before her career took off, and they’re not controlled by their label. If anything, they’re more intimate and more authentic than 99% of musicians out there. How many musicians do you know that don’t record in a studio, but in a small bedroom? That’s more DIY than the majority of indie bands. She also has strong creative control over her videos, and even directed one of them. And if the studio is dictating her fashion and style, why does she wear gigantic clothes and chunky sneakers (the same clothes she wore before she was famous)? She very specially avoids sexualizing herself like all female pop artists do (which is also fine).
If your only real argument for her being an industry plant is that her label has promoted the s*** out of her through interviews and music videos, duh genius, that’s what record labels do. That’s their job. Having the full support of her label doesn’t make her a ‘plant.’ They’ve done this with every major artist in history. By this logic The Beatles, The Clash, and Queen are ‘industry plants.’
The irony of people singling in on an artist who co-creates all of her music with her own brother (with no other writers and producers), does it by themselves in a small bedroom, and calling her ‘inauthentic’ is astounding. For years Redditors complained about pop stars with 50 songwriters contributing to each song, and finally a pop star comes along who writes all her music with her brother, and they throw a fit.
What it comes down to is grown men believing a teenage girl is incapable of making authentic music and must be the product of famous parents and a record industry creating her out of thin air. It’s sad, and frankly sexist at this point. When Arctic Monkeys blew up as teenagers and were heavily promoted by their label, no one claimed they were ‘inauthentic’ and an ‘industry plant.’
Dislike her music all you want, just don’t parrot lies and half truths because you can’t believe a teenage girl can create hit music.
EDIT: well this blew up. To everyone saying you don’t like her music, once again, that’s fine. That’s not the point I was making. To everyone saying I’m an industry plant as well, I wish.
It’s one thing to not like her music, which is fine, to each their own. It’s another thing to construct a series of conspiracies so you don’t have to believe a teenage girl can make music. The amount of vitriol being thrown at a teenage girl by grown ass men is frankly insane, especially considering the amount of false information being spread about a completely harmless pop artist.
Let’s break down some of the crazier things tons of people on Reddit are saying...
‘Her parents are heavily connected in the industry and she’s only famous because they’re famous.’
Oh really, who are her parents? Are they house hold names? Wait, no, they’re low level actors with a few bit parts to their name and one low budget movie they made together. The biggest role either of her parents have gotten is voice acting on Mass Effect 2. They’re not record producers, they’re not famous musicians, they’re not elite media types. They’re unknown artists who probably have less clout in the industry than a small town radio DJ. You’re telling me they had enough power to make her music career go off, but not enough to make their own careers go off?
‘Her music and image are formed by her label, she’s made by a committee.’
She co-writes and makes all her music with her brother in his small room in their parents modest, middle class house. Need proof? Here you go. They’re weren’t uber wealthy before her career took off, and they’re not controlled by their label. If anything, they’re more intimate and more authentic than 99% of musicians out there. How many musicians do you know that don’t record in a studio, but in a small bedroom? That’s more DIY than the majority of indie bands. She also has strong creative control over her videos, and even directed one of them. And if the studio is dictating her fashion and style, why does she wear gigantic clothes and chunky sneakers (the same clothes she wore before she was famous)? She very specially avoids sexualizing herself like all female pop artists do (which is also fine).
If your only real argument for her being an industry plant is that her label has promoted the s*** out of her through interviews and music videos, duh genius, that’s what record labels do. That’s their job. Having the full support of her label doesn’t make her a ‘plant.’ They’ve done this with every major artist in history. By this logic The Beatles, The Clash, and Queen are ‘industry plants.’
The irony of people singling in on an artist who co-creates all of her music with her own brother (with no other writers and producers), does it by themselves in a small bedroom, and calling her ‘inauthentic’ is astounding. For years Redditors complained about pop stars with 50 songwriters contributing to each song, and finally a pop star comes along who writes all her music with her brother, and they throw a fit.
What it comes down to is grown men believing a teenage girl is incapable of making authentic music and must be the product of famous parents and a record industry creating her out of thin air. It’s sad, and frankly sexist at this point. When Arctic Monkeys blew up as teenagers and were heavily promoted by their label, no one claimed they were ‘inauthentic’ and an ‘industry plant.’
Dislike her music all you want, just don’t parrot lies and half truths because you can’t believe a teenage girl can create hit music.
EDIT: well this blew up. To everyone saying you don’t like her music, once again, that’s fine. That’s not the point I was making. To everyone saying I’m an industry plant as well, I wish.
this sounds like something an industry plant would say
i'm just f\*\*\*ing with you this real s\*\*\*
It’s one thing to not like her music, which is fine, to each their own. It’s another thing to construct a series of conspiracies so you don’t have to believe a teenage girl can make music. The amount of vitriol being thrown at a teenage girl by grown ass men is frankly insane, especially considering the amount of false information being spread about a completely harmless pop artist.
Let’s break down some of the crazier things tons of people on Reddit are saying...
‘Her parents are heavily connected in the industry and she’s only famous because they’re famous.’
Oh really, who are her parents? Are they house hold names? Wait, no, they’re low level actors with a few bit parts to their name and one low budget movie they made together. The biggest role either of her parents have gotten is voice acting on Mass Effect 2. They’re not record producers, they’re not famous musicians, they’re not elite media types. They’re unknown artists who probably have less clout in the industry than a small town radio DJ. You’re telling me they had enough power to make her music career go off, but not enough to make their own careers go off?
‘Her music and image are formed by her label, she’s made by a committee.’
She co-writes and makes all her music with her brother in his small room in their parents modest, middle class house. Need proof? Here you go. They’re weren’t uber wealthy before her career took off, and they’re not controlled by their label. If anything, they’re more intimate and more authentic than 99% of musicians out there. How many musicians do you know that don’t record in a studio, but in a small bedroom? That’s more DIY than the majority of indie bands. She also has strong creative control over her videos, and even directed one of them. And if the studio is dictating her fashion and style, why does she wear gigantic clothes and chunky sneakers (the same clothes she wore before she was famous)? She very specially avoids sexualizing herself like all female pop artists do (which is also fine).
If your only real argument for her being an industry plant is that her label has promoted the s*** out of her through interviews and music videos, duh genius, that’s what record labels do. That’s their job. Having the full support of her label doesn’t make her a ‘plant.’ They’ve done this with every major artist in history. By this logic The Beatles, The Clash, and Queen are ‘industry plants.’
The irony of people singling in on an artist who co-creates all of her music with her own brother (with no other writers and producers), does it by themselves in a small bedroom, and calling her ‘inauthentic’ is astounding. For years Redditors complained about pop stars with 50 songwriters contributing to each song, and finally a pop star comes along who writes all her music with her brother, and they throw a fit.
What it comes down to is grown men believing a teenage girl is incapable of making authentic music and must be the product of famous parents and a record industry creating her out of thin air. It’s sad, and frankly sexist at this point. When Arctic Monkeys blew up as teenagers and were heavily promoted by their label, no one claimed they were ‘inauthentic’ and an ‘industry plant.’
Dislike her music all you want, just don’t parrot lies and half truths because you can’t believe a teenage girl can create hit music.
EDIT: well this blew up. To everyone saying you don’t like her music, once again, that’s fine. That’s not the point I was making. To everyone saying I’m an industry plant as well, I wish.
Nobody knows or cares what industry plant means anymore
It just equals "mid" which people don't even use right anymore anyways
just wanna come in here to say everything i wanted is one of the greatest songs of the millennium and she needs to get back in that bag
It’s one thing to not like her music, which is fine, to each their own. It’s another thing to construct a series of conspiracies so you don’t have to believe a teenage girl can make music. The amount of vitriol being thrown at a teenage girl by grown ass men is frankly insane, especially considering the amount of false information being spread about a completely harmless pop artist.
Let’s break down some of the crazier things tons of people on Reddit are saying...
‘Her parents are heavily connected in the industry and she’s only famous because they’re famous.’
Oh really, who are her parents? Are they house hold names? Wait, no, they’re low level actors with a few bit parts to their name and one low budget movie they made together. The biggest role either of her parents have gotten is voice acting on Mass Effect 2. They’re not record producers, they’re not famous musicians, they’re not elite media types. They’re unknown artists who probably have less clout in the industry than a small town radio DJ. You’re telling me they had enough power to make her music career go off, but not enough to make their own careers go off?
‘Her music and image are formed by her label, she’s made by a committee.’
She co-writes and makes all her music with her brother in his small room in their parents modest, middle class house. Need proof? Here you go. They’re weren’t uber wealthy before her career took off, and they’re not controlled by their label. If anything, they’re more intimate and more authentic than 99% of musicians out there. How many musicians do you know that don’t record in a studio, but in a small bedroom? That’s more DIY than the majority of indie bands. She also has strong creative control over her videos, and even directed one of them. And if the studio is dictating her fashion and style, why does she wear gigantic clothes and chunky sneakers (the same clothes she wore before she was famous)? She very specially avoids sexualizing herself like all female pop artists do (which is also fine).
If your only real argument for her being an industry plant is that her label has promoted the s*** out of her through interviews and music videos, duh genius, that’s what record labels do. That’s their job. Having the full support of her label doesn’t make her a ‘plant.’ They’ve done this with every major artist in history. By this logic The Beatles, The Clash, and Queen are ‘industry plants.’
The irony of people singling in on an artist who co-creates all of her music with her own brother (with no other writers and producers), does it by themselves in a small bedroom, and calling her ‘inauthentic’ is astounding. For years Redditors complained about pop stars with 50 songwriters contributing to each song, and finally a pop star comes along who writes all her music with her brother, and they throw a fit.
What it comes down to is grown men believing a teenage girl is incapable of making authentic music and must be the product of famous parents and a record industry creating her out of thin air. It’s sad, and frankly sexist at this point. When Arctic Monkeys blew up as teenagers and were heavily promoted by their label, no one claimed they were ‘inauthentic’ and an ‘industry plant.’
Dislike her music all you want, just don’t parrot lies and half truths because you can’t believe a teenage girl can create hit music.
EDIT: well this blew up. To everyone saying you don’t like her music, once again, that’s fine. That’s not the point I was making. To everyone saying I’m an industry plant as well, I wish.
just wanna come in here to say everything i wanted is one of the greatest songs of the millennium and she needs to get back in that bag
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgBJmlPo8XwHer best song, wish this was the direction she went for on the second album
Billie and Olivia are microcosms of gen z personal data. Right place. Right time. Right product
just wanna come in here to say everything i wanted is one of the greatest songs of the millennium and she needs to get back in that bag
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgBJmlPo8XwYup this s*** is nuts
Billie and Olivia are microcosms of gen z personal data. Right place. Right time. Right product
You’re right
But saying that s*** with Bunny and Taylor avi is wild lol
It’s one thing to not like her music, which is fine, to each their own. It’s another thing to construct a series of conspiracies so you don’t have to believe a teenage girl can make music. The amount of vitriol being thrown at a teenage girl by grown ass men is frankly insane, especially considering the amount of false information being spread about a completely harmless pop artist.
Let’s break down some of the crazier things tons of people on Reddit are saying...
‘Her parents are heavily connected in the industry and she’s only famous because they’re famous.’
Oh really, who are her parents? Are they house hold names? Wait, no, they’re low level actors with a few bit parts to their name and one low budget movie they made together. The biggest role either of her parents have gotten is voice acting on Mass Effect 2. They’re not record producers, they’re not famous musicians, they’re not elite media types. They’re unknown artists who probably have less clout in the industry than a small town radio DJ. You’re telling me they had enough power to make her music career go off, but not enough to make their own careers go off?
‘Her music and image are formed by her label, she’s made by a committee.’
She co-writes and makes all her music with her brother in his small room in their parents modest, middle class house. Need proof? Here you go. They’re weren’t uber wealthy before her career took off, and they’re not controlled by their label. If anything, they’re more intimate and more authentic than 99% of musicians out there. How many musicians do you know that don’t record in a studio, but in a small bedroom? That’s more DIY than the majority of indie bands. She also has strong creative control over her videos, and even directed one of them. And if the studio is dictating her fashion and style, why does she wear gigantic clothes and chunky sneakers (the same clothes she wore before she was famous)? She very specially avoids sexualizing herself like all female pop artists do (which is also fine).
If your only real argument for her being an industry plant is that her label has promoted the s*** out of her through interviews and music videos, duh genius, that’s what record labels do. That’s their job. Having the full support of her label doesn’t make her a ‘plant.’ They’ve done this with every major artist in history. By this logic The Beatles, The Clash, and Queen are ‘industry plants.’
The irony of people singling in on an artist who co-creates all of her music with her own brother (with no other writers and producers), does it by themselves in a small bedroom, and calling her ‘inauthentic’ is astounding. For years Redditors complained about pop stars with 50 songwriters contributing to each song, and finally a pop star comes along who writes all her music with her brother, and they throw a fit.
What it comes down to is grown men believing a teenage girl is incapable of making authentic music and must be the product of famous parents and a record industry creating her out of thin air. It’s sad, and frankly sexist at this point. When Arctic Monkeys blew up as teenagers and were heavily promoted by their label, no one claimed they were ‘inauthentic’ and an ‘industry plant.’
Dislike her music all you want, just don’t parrot lies and half truths because you can’t believe a teenage girl can create hit music.
EDIT: well this blew up. To everyone saying you don’t like her music, once again, that’s fine. That’s not the point I was making. To everyone saying I’m an industry plant as well, I wish.
Source?
Anyone know who this guy is?
Nigga look like an off brand Tyler The Creator Tyrone The Maker
do u write this s*** in ur notes app
nobody doubts that white ppl love kendrick, ok. his music still has aged poorly tf are u gonna do, play that sht at a party? are u crazy?
Bro has the longest charting hiphop album of the last decade to this day but his music aged badly cause they don’t play it at your little parties
It’s one thing to not like her music, which is fine, to each their own. It’s another thing to construct a series of conspiracies so you don’t have to believe a teenage girl can make music. The amount of vitriol being thrown at a teenage girl by grown ass men is frankly insane, especially considering the amount of false information being spread about a completely harmless pop artist.
Let’s break down some of the crazier things tons of people on Reddit are saying...
‘Her parents are heavily connected in the industry and she’s only famous because they’re famous.’
Oh really, who are her parents? Are they house hold names? Wait, no, they’re low level actors with a few bit parts to their name and one low budget movie they made together. The biggest role either of her parents have gotten is voice acting on Mass Effect 2. They’re not record producers, they’re not famous musicians, they’re not elite media types. They’re unknown artists who probably have less clout in the industry than a small town radio DJ. You’re telling me they had enough power to make her music career go off, but not enough to make their own careers go off?
‘Her music and image are formed by her label, she’s made by a committee.’
She co-writes and makes all her music with her brother in his small room in their parents modest, middle class house. Need proof? Here you go. They’re weren’t uber wealthy before her career took off, and they’re not controlled by their label. If anything, they’re more intimate and more authentic than 99% of musicians out there. How many musicians do you know that don’t record in a studio, but in a small bedroom? That’s more DIY than the majority of indie bands. She also has strong creative control over her videos, and even directed one of them. And if the studio is dictating her fashion and style, why does she wear gigantic clothes and chunky sneakers (the same clothes she wore before she was famous)? She very specially avoids sexualizing herself like all female pop artists do (which is also fine).
If your only real argument for her being an industry plant is that her label has promoted the s*** out of her through interviews and music videos, duh genius, that’s what record labels do. That’s their job. Having the full support of her label doesn’t make her a ‘plant.’ They’ve done this with every major artist in history. By this logic The Beatles, The Clash, and Queen are ‘industry plants.’
The irony of people singling in on an artist who co-creates all of her music with her own brother (with no other writers and producers), does it by themselves in a small bedroom, and calling her ‘inauthentic’ is astounding. For years Redditors complained about pop stars with 50 songwriters contributing to each song, and finally a pop star comes along who writes all her music with her brother, and they throw a fit.
What it comes down to is grown men believing a teenage girl is incapable of making authentic music and must be the product of famous parents and a record industry creating her out of thin air. It’s sad, and frankly sexist at this point. When Arctic Monkeys blew up as teenagers and were heavily promoted by their label, no one claimed they were ‘inauthentic’ and an ‘industry plant.’
Dislike her music all you want, just don’t parrot lies and half truths because you can’t believe a teenage girl can create hit music.
EDIT: well this blew up. To everyone saying you don’t like her music, once again, that’s fine. That’s not the point I was making. To everyone saying I’m an industry plant as well, I wish.
what up finneas