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  • Sep 6, 2021

    Bring morals to politics

    "Ulema reject the Christian doctrine of the separation of religion and politics.. their claim is that it is their duty to provide politics with its moral standards.."

    But they rarely exercise power

    "Few Ulema have exercised political power other than in situations of crisis which have been viewed as exceptions to the norm. IN Afghan history the amirs (rulers) or those who aspired to power, were always members of the tribal aristocracy, and were never Ulema."

    They've been around for a while..

    "This practical and theoretical separation dates from an early era, in the 9th and 10th centuries, with the emergence of the Ulema, a body of men of religion, who constituted a relatively autonomous social group, identifiable principally through their knowledge of the Quran.."

    They have a large influence

    "The state needs the backing of the Ulema to persuade individual citizens of the religious legitimacy.."

    From Revolution Unending, Dorronsoro

    Still not really sure what they do, but it's clear they have a large influence within the Muslim world

  • They preach 7th century lifestyle

    That's about all they do.

  • They also make money by keeping donations and in countries they run they give each other ceo positions and make bank that way.

  • They are good story tellers too, they talk for hours about Muhammad going to space on a flying donkey

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    Also younger generation is not a big fan of them

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    If one reaches the grand mullah status he then gets to issue Fatwas. Fatwas are religious rulings and don't have expiry dates. Idiot supporters may act on it for decades and centuries to come.

    I give you an example. There is a Fatwa in islamic theology that when the enemy is hiding within civilian populated areas the jihadists have the right to attack and if innocent people die Allah will make it up to them. You can find the Fatwa in the comprehensive works of Ibn Taymmyyah which dates back to the 13th century. Mullahs use this to justify killing innocent people and their islamist supporters accept it. They accept centuries old rulings regardless of the time it was issued and the events that surrounded it!!!

    An example of a recent Fatwa is when Khomeini issued a fatwa ordering muslims to kill Rushdie for his book. This Fatwa backfired tho, it made Rushdie a mediocre writer a millionaire lmao.

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    Frankito Reynolds

    Also younger generation is not a big fan of them

    !https://youtu.be/Rq8wDlLU2v0

    what the F*** is this

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    Frankito Reynolds

    If one reaches the grand mullah status he then gets to issue Fatwas. Fatwas are religious rulings and don't have expiry dates. Idiot supporters may act on it for decades and centuries to come.

    I give you an example. There is a Fatwa in islamic theology that when the enemy is hiding within civilian populated areas the jihadists have the right to attack and if innocent people die Allah will make it up to them. You can find the Fatwa in the comprehensive works of Ibn Taymmyyah which dates back to the 13th century. Mullahs use this to justify killing innocent people and their islamist supporters accept it. They accept centuries old rulings regardless of the time it was issued and the events that surrounded it!!!

    An example of a recent Fatwa is when Khomeini issued a fatwa ordering muslims to kill Rushdie for his book. This Fatwa backfired tho, it made Rushdie a mediocre writer a millionaire lmao.

    !https://youtu.be/pDx3vnvSbm8

    what is fatwa vs jihad?

  • Sep 7, 2021
    Frankito Reynolds

    If one reaches the grand mullah status he then gets to issue Fatwas. Fatwas are religious rulings and don't have expiry dates. Idiot supporters may act on it for decades and centuries to come.

    I give you an example. There is a Fatwa in islamic theology that when the enemy is hiding within civilian populated areas the jihadists have the right to attack and if innocent people die Allah will make it up to them. You can find the Fatwa in the comprehensive works of Ibn Taymmyyah which dates back to the 13th century. Mullahs use this to justify killing innocent people and their islamist supporters accept it. They accept centuries old rulings regardless of the time it was issued and the events that surrounded it!!!

    An example of a recent Fatwa is when Khomeini issued a fatwa ordering muslims to kill Rushdie for his book. This Fatwa backfired tho, it made Rushdie a mediocre writer a millionaire lmao.

    !https://youtu.be/pDx3vnvSbm8

    not watching this musical white person s*** tho i watched 5 seconds of it and turned it off

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    what is fatwa vs jihad?

    Fatwa is a religious ruling.
    When Pious Islamist Muslims have a question instead of using modern scientific means to find the answer they go to the Mullah and the Mullah issues a ruling based on the Quran and Hadiths. Hadiths are collections of traditions based on the "sayings of Muhammad". These collection of sayings were gathered by Mullahs in Middle ages.

    Jihad is fight against enemies of Islam.

    Mullahs are by nature imperialists. The expansion of Islam after the 7th century mirrors the roman empire. Their main goal was to expand, increase population in numbers and tax people. One of the methods of converting people to islam was that non-muslims had to pay a higher tax "jaziyeh" compared to muslims tax "zakat". You do the maths.

    Also you are misinformed about Mullahs not having power historically. Many of the kings were very religious and had Mullah Viziers that run most things. Mullahs also acted as supreme Judges in islamic courts since they were the ones familiar with sharia law.
    Historically arts and sciences prevailed during the eras with less religious kings in charge.

    That's a video of a guy running after the Mullah screaming get out. It's very tiresome living in a country run by mullahs. Listening to them talk messes with your wellbeing.

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    Keep religion in the corner where it can't do no harm

  • rich scouser

    Keep religion in the corner where it can't do no harm

    CIA let the genie out of the bottle tho

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    Even though Quran is the greatest script and has all the secrets a pious believer still has to refer to a mullah on matters of islamic jurisprudence.

    Therefore one of the important tasks of a high level mullah is to publish treatise on Islamic rules for living.

    Here are some excerpts to give you an understanding of what mullahs spend their time thinking about.

    • It is better for a girl to marry when her menstruation starts, and at her husband's house rather than her father's home.
      Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven." - Khomeini, "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990.
    • “It is not illegal for an adult male to 'thigh' or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his p**** between her thighs, and to kiss her.” Ayatu Allah Al Khumaini's "Tahrir Al wasila" p. 241, issue number 12.
    • "Young boys or girls in full sexual effervescence are kept from getting married before they reach the legal age of majority. This is against the intention of divine laws. Why should the marriage of pubescent girls and boys be forbidden because they are still minors, when they are allowed to listen to the radio and to sexually arousing music?" -
      "The Little Green Book" "Sayings of the Ayatollah Khomeini", Bantam Books

    • “A man can have s***with animals such as sheep, cows, ewe, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his o*****. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine. - Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990

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    Sep 7, 2021
    Frankito Reynolds

    Even though Quran is the greatest script and has all the secrets a pious believer still has to refer to a mullah on matters of islamic jurisprudence.

    Therefore one of the important tasks of a high level mullah is to publish treatise on Islamic rules for living.

    Here are some excerpts to give you an understanding of what mullahs spend their time thinking about.

    • It is better for a girl to marry when her menstruation starts, and at her husband's house rather than her father's home.
      Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven." - Khomeini, "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990.
    • “It is not illegal for an adult male to 'thigh' or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his p**** between her thighs, and to kiss her.” Ayatu Allah Al Khumaini's "Tahrir Al wasila" p. 241, issue number 12.
    • "Young boys or girls in full sexual effervescence are kept from getting married before they reach the legal age of majority. This is against the intention of divine laws. Why should the marriage of pubescent girls and boys be forbidden because they are still minors, when they are allowed to listen to the radio and to sexually arousing music?" -
      "The Little Green Book" "Sayings of the Ayatollah Khomeini", Bantam Books

    • “A man can have s***with animals such as sheep, cows, ewe, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his o*****. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine. - Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990

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    Sep 7, 2021
    Frankito Reynolds

    Even though Quran is the greatest script and has all the secrets a pious believer still has to refer to a mullah on matters of islamic jurisprudence.

    Therefore one of the important tasks of a high level mullah is to publish treatise on Islamic rules for living.

    Here are some excerpts to give you an understanding of what mullahs spend their time thinking about.

    • It is better for a girl to marry when her menstruation starts, and at her husband's house rather than her father's home.
      Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven." - Khomeini, "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990.
    • “It is not illegal for an adult male to 'thigh' or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his p**** between her thighs, and to kiss her.” Ayatu Allah Al Khumaini's "Tahrir Al wasila" p. 241, issue number 12.
    • "Young boys or girls in full sexual effervescence are kept from getting married before they reach the legal age of majority. This is against the intention of divine laws. Why should the marriage of pubescent girls and boys be forbidden because they are still minors, when they are allowed to listen to the radio and to sexually arousing music?" -
      "The Little Green Book" "Sayings of the Ayatollah Khomeini", Bantam Books

    • “A man can have s***with animals such as sheep, cows, ewe, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his o*****. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine. - Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990

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    Frankito Reynolds

    Fatwa is a religious ruling.
    When Pious Islamist Muslims have a question instead of using modern scientific means to find the answer they go to the Mullah and the Mullah issues a ruling based on the Quran and Hadiths. Hadiths are collections of traditions based on the "sayings of Muhammad". These collection of sayings were gathered by Mullahs in Middle ages.

    Jihad is fight against enemies of Islam.

    Mullahs are by nature imperialists. The expansion of Islam after the 7th century mirrors the roman empire. Their main goal was to expand, increase population in numbers and tax people. One of the methods of converting people to islam was that non-muslims had to pay a higher tax "jaziyeh" compared to muslims tax "zakat". You do the maths.

    Also you are misinformed about Mullahs not having power historically. Many of the kings were very religious and had Mullah Viziers that run most things. Mullahs also acted as supreme Judges in islamic courts since they were the ones familiar with sharia law.
    Historically arts and sciences prevailed during the eras with less religious kings in charge.

    That's a video of a guy running after the Mullah screaming get out. It's very tiresome living in a country run by mullahs. Listening to them talk messes with your wellbeing.

    Yeah I remember reading about the taxes.
    Thank you for the historical correction about Mullahs power.

    Do all Islamic governments practice Sharia? I'm kind of confused on the macro level view.
    Like, is Sharia what an Islamic government inherently practices?

  • Sep 7, 2021
    Frankito Reynolds

    Even though Quran is the greatest script and has all the secrets a pious believer still has to refer to a mullah on matters of islamic jurisprudence.

    Therefore one of the important tasks of a high level mullah is to publish treatise on Islamic rules for living.

    Here are some excerpts to give you an understanding of what mullahs spend their time thinking about.

    • It is better for a girl to marry when her menstruation starts, and at her husband's house rather than her father's home.
      Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven." - Khomeini, "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990.
    • “It is not illegal for an adult male to 'thigh' or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his p**** between her thighs, and to kiss her.” Ayatu Allah Al Khumaini's "Tahrir Al wasila" p. 241, issue number 12.
    • "Young boys or girls in full sexual effervescence are kept from getting married before they reach the legal age of majority. This is against the intention of divine laws. Why should the marriage of pubescent girls and boys be forbidden because they are still minors, when they are allowed to listen to the radio and to sexually arousing music?" -
      "The Little Green Book" "Sayings of the Ayatollah Khomeini", Bantam Books

    • “A man can have s***with animals such as sheep, cows, ewe, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his o*****. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine. - Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990

    oh my god
    the last quote

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    "In Afghanistan the amir has claimed Islamic legitimacy since the beginning of the 19th century. It was laid down at that time that sermons in the mosques should be preached in his name. When certain mullahs at the time of the political disturbances in the spring of 1971 no longer preached the khotba in the amirs name, this constituted a direct challenge to his legitimacy."

    "After 1929.. clerical recognition became in itself the source of legitimacy, and the ulema saw themselves as granting legitimacy to the ruler."

    Is this still true? Do mullahs still have a lot of influence?

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    "In Afghanistan the amir has claimed Islamic legitimacy since the beginning of the 19th century. It was laid down at that time that sermons in the mosques should be preached in his name. When certain mullahs at the time of the political disturbances in the spring of 1971 no longer preached the khotba in the amirs name, this constituted a direct challenge to his legitimacy."

    "After 1929.. clerical recognition became in itself the source of legitimacy, and the ulema saw themselves as granting legitimacy to the ruler."

    Is this still true? Do mullahs still have a lot of influence?

    Yeah. Generally the more conservative a government is the more pull Mullahs have.

    Ofcrouse mullahs have influence today. Haibatullah Akhundzade the Taliban supreme leader Aka Amir Al Momeneen is a mullah. His last name literally translates to son of a mullah lol

    Look up Sayid Qutb book in the Shade of Quran. He conceptualized The guardianship of the islamic jurist in the 50s. His work is inspiration to islamist leaders and played a big part in Mullahs comeback during 70s.

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    Frankito Reynolds

    Even though Quran is the greatest script and has all the secrets a pious believer still has to refer to a mullah on matters of islamic jurisprudence.

    Therefore one of the important tasks of a high level mullah is to publish treatise on Islamic rules for living.

    Here are some excerpts to give you an understanding of what mullahs spend their time thinking about.

    • It is better for a girl to marry when her menstruation starts, and at her husband's house rather than her father's home.
      Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven." - Khomeini, "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990.
    • “It is not illegal for an adult male to 'thigh' or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his p**** between her thighs, and to kiss her.” Ayatu Allah Al Khumaini's "Tahrir Al wasila" p. 241, issue number 12.
    • "Young boys or girls in full sexual effervescence are kept from getting married before they reach the legal age of majority. This is against the intention of divine laws. Why should the marriage of pubescent girls and boys be forbidden because they are still minors, when they are allowed to listen to the radio and to sexually arousing music?" -
      "The Little Green Book" "Sayings of the Ayatollah Khomeini", Bantam Books

    • “A man can have s***with animals such as sheep, cows, ewe, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his o*****. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine. - Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990

    Lmfaooooo

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    Marble

    Lmfaooooo

    You laugh now but time magazine named this guy man of the year and when Khomeini asked Jimmy Carter to help him return to Iran and in return he promised leftists wont get a say in the future government. Jimmy did exactly that! Who is the bigger idiot here you think?

    wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/1979PARIS02604_e.html

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    Frankito Reynolds

    You laugh now but time magazine named this guy man of the year and when Khomeini asked Jimmy Carter to help him return to Iran and in return he promised leftists wont get a say in the future government. Jimmy did exactly that! Who is the bigger idiot here you think?

    https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/1979PARIS02604_e.html

    Plenty of dumbasses got named man of the year tho. Idk what you implying, you think that what that mfer said isn’t completely crazy?

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    Marble

    Plenty of dumbasses got named man of the year tho. Idk what you implying, you think that what that mfer said isn’t completely crazy?

    No , the opposite. I'm saying they knew he was crazy! Yet they helped him out? Why?

    Just like now. They know Taliban is crazy but they are in the process of legitimizing them. Why?

  • Sep 7, 2021
    Frankito Reynolds

    No , the opposite. I'm saying they knew he was crazy! Yet they helped him out? Why?

    Just like now. They know Taliban is crazy but they are in the process of legitimizing them. Why?

    Because it’s in the best interest of the US government I guess?