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    There were and are whites native to Africa even before rampant exploitation of the continent. The continent is massive -- all types of people have lived there for centuries.

    Look no further than Egypt. Just there, multiple variations of skin color existed. It wasn't just black or white, but a large swath of racial diversity.

    Moreover, that argument would be like saying that whites/Asians/blacks/etc have no place in the US since it was originally land belonging to Native Americans. There's more nuance than that and asking every race to stay in their place of origin is white supremacy rhetoric.

  • Oct 11, 2020
    Muhammed

    Apartheid only officially ending in 1994 is one of the crazier facts from modern history man

    yep can’t undo generations of oppression in less than 30 years

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    Villainous B

    No they called themselves Africans before the end of Apartheid, that's one of the reasons they switched over from Dutch to Afrikaans, they needed a new persona.

    read up on Afrikanerdom and the Afrikaner Broederbond.

    u from sa?

  • Oct 11, 2020
    dadye

    u from sa?

    I cannot release that information.

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    Everything

    There were and are whites native to Africa even before rampant exploitation of the continent. The continent is massive -- all types of people have lived there for centuries.

    Look no further than Egypt. Just there, multiple variations of skin color existed. It wasn't just black or white, but a large swath of racial diversity.

    Moreover, that argument would be like saying that whites/Asians/blacks/etc have no place in the US since it was originally land belonging to Native Americans. There's more nuance than that and asking every race to stay in their place of origin is white supremacy rhetoric.

    That’s Northern Africa but even a lot of Northern Africans don’t actually consider themselves African (and rightfully so). In South Africa specifically, there were no cacs before colonization and the cacs that are still there are a result of their colonizer ancestors.

    Also you should be ashamed of yourself if you’re really comparing cacs being into South Africa to immigrants coming to America.

    Firstly, America is also colonized land. Secondly, America either forcefully took those immigrants (slavery) or legally allowed them in.

    Whites in South Africa are INTRUDERS and COLONIZERS. It isn’t the same thing.

    And if anything is reminiscent of white supremacist rhetoric, it’s the notion that white people belong in South Africa.

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    This is still hilarious
    Not SA tho

  • Oct 11, 2020
    So Illegal

    It’s not their fault yet they directly benefit from it

    And you talk about it like apartheid ended 500 years ago...goofy said ancestors

    When I said ancestors there I was talking about the original Dutch settlers

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    I think it's a useful issue for white separatists to latch onto.

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    I'm gonna stop commenting cause it seems like you all are way more invested in this than I am and taking my posts personal, I guess I'm just a little confused how SA will benefit from getting rid of 3 million people

  • Oct 11, 2020
    RoomOnFire


    This is still hilarious
    Not SA tho

    Mugabe was a man caught in two minds, sometimes a liberator, sometimes a coon of the highest order. A lot of the infamous land seizures wasn't something he even intiated, but a militant faction of his party who had fallen on desperate times because those IMF loans never work out.

  • Oct 11, 2020
    Mango

    I think it's a useful issue for white separatists to latch onto.

    Read up on die Volkstaat and Orania

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    That’s Northern Africa but even a lot of Northern Africans don’t actually consider themselves African (and rightfully so). In South Africa specifically, there were no cacs before colonization and the cacs that are still there are a result of their colonizer ancestors.

    Also you should be ashamed of yourself if you’re really comparing cacs being into South Africa to immigrants coming to America.

    Firstly, America is also colonized land. Secondly, America either forcefully took those immigrants (slavery) or legally allowed them in.

    Whites in South Africa are INTRUDERS and COLONIZERS. It isn’t the same thing.

    And if anything is reminiscent of white supremacist rhetoric, it’s the notion that white people belong in South Africa.

    You're adding the caveat of South Africa when the original post was about white people not belonging in Africa. Read maybe. Also, it doesn't matter what they consider themselves. They are African. A ton of black Dominicans refuse to consider themselves black. So? Who cares what they think. My point is that it was never up to Americans to allow people into America in the first place following this line of thinking. Everyone who isn't a Native American is an intruder.

    Whites in America are also colonizers and intruders. Nobody is making the argument that they don't belong in the US because it's a dumb argument. Humans don't belong anywhere. This is a rock with hundreds of thousands of years of history involving "stolen" land (ridiculous concept anyway) and bloodshed among natives and intruders/colonizers alike. Every continent on Earth faced war over land ownership between their own people all the time. It's no different when a foreign group shows up and wants to participate. It's all f***ed. That's how humans are and always have been. White people get the most flack because they spilled the most blood and "succeeded" the most in their conquests, but nobody gives a f*** about how Asians were in a state of constant war for millenia over land. Hell, Genghis Khan is talked about as if he was some badass hero when he himself was an intruding colonizer lol. Nobody cares about the endless wars going on in Europe among their own people, either. S*** is OD weird to try and separate blood spilled as less worse than others because it happened among people native to the land.

  • Oct 11, 2020

    RT NEWS 😂😂😂😂😂

    OP GOTTA CHILL

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    allmygirlsdoyoga

    I’m sorry bro but White people have no business being in Africa. Your/Their ancestors are colonizers.

    what do you want them to do? Im living on stolen land should I swim over to Europe because my ancestors were a******s?

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    kd9822

    what do you want them to do? Im living on stolen land should I swim over to Europe because my ancestors were a******s?

    If you want my honest opinion, yes.

  • Oct 11, 2020
    Everything

    You're adding the caveat of South Africa when the original post was about white people not belonging in Africa. Read maybe. Also, it doesn't matter what they consider themselves. They are African. A ton of black Dominicans refuse to consider themselves black. So? Who cares what they think. My point is that it was never up to Americans to allow people into America in the first place following this line of thinking. Everyone who isn't a Native American is an intruder.

    Whites in America are also colonizers and intruders. Nobody is making the argument that they don't belong in the US because it's a dumb argument. Humans don't belong anywhere. This is a rock with hundreds of thousands of years of history involving "stolen" land (ridiculous concept anyway) and bloodshed among natives and intruders/colonizers alike. Every continent on Earth faced war over land ownership between their own people all the time. It's no different when a foreign group shows up and wants to participate. It's all f***ed. That's how humans are and always have been. White people get the most flack because they spilled the most blood and "succeeded" the most in their conquests, but nobody gives a f*** about how Asians were in a state of constant war for millenia over land. Hell, Genghis Khan is talked about as if he was some badass hero when he himself was an intruding colonizer lol. Nobody cares about the endless wars going on in Europe among their own people, either. S*** is OD weird to try and separate blood spilled as less worse than others because it happened among people native to the land.

    Tons of people have argued that whites don’t belong in the US and they’re correct about it. The only difference is that White American Colonizers killed most of the indigenous Americans.

    And yes all groups of people have contributed to war over land/property but there’s a certain group of people that have done it more than anyone else. If you want to be obtuse and include North African countries then ok, you can argue that white people do belong in those parts of Africa. However, the descendants of white colonizers have no business being in places like South Africa. Black and Coloured South Africans have never benefited from colonialism or the descendants of colonialism.

  • Oct 11, 2020

    It’s not a racial issue. Majority of farm owners just tend to be white.

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    allmygirlsdoyoga

    If you want my honest opinion, yes.

    That is so strange

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    allmygirlsdoyoga

    If you want my honest opinion, yes.

    OP how about you eject yourself off the planet since basically all our land was stolen from other animals by our ancestors

  • Oct 11, 2020
    allmygirlsdoyoga

    If you want my honest opinion, yes.

    Lol, people really pop up with “well what about me🥺”

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    Literally no reason for whites (or anyone) to hold the majority of land in SA. They dont belong there and should f*** off back to the Netherlands.

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    Noah Fancyson

    OP how about you eject yourself off the planet since basically all our land was stolen from other animals by our ancestors

    Not surprised such a s*** false equivalency is coming from a new account with an avi like that

  • Oct 11, 2020
    fun

    Not surprised such a s*** false equivalency is coming from a new account with an avi like that

    Hey hey hey man take it easy

    Explain to me the false equivalency because I don't see it

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    fun

    Literally no reason for whites (or anyone) to hold the majority of land in SA. They dont belong there and should f*** off back to the Netherlands.

    Thats a weird game to start playing ngl.

    Like if you are profitable for the community and a decent human being then you should be able to live everwhere in the world.

    I dont know if those farmers did anything that hurt or exploited other people but if they didnt then killing them only because of race is just simple racism. Same for using them as a scapegoat for other problems.

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    Kenig

    Thats a weird game to start playing ngl.

    Like if you are profitable for the community and a decent human being then you should be able to live everwhere in the world.

    I dont know if those farmers did anything that hurt or exploited other people but if they didnt then killing them only because of race is just simple racism. Same for using them as a scapegoat for other problems.

    No such thing as a profitable land owner my guy.

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