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  • shaleirose

    Okay, so then why say “millions of people disagree”

    Who gives a s*** what millions of people think? The masses eat up bullshit all the time in numerous mediums of art

    The Transformers movies made bank

    Call of Duty makes bank every year

    There’s always bullshit at the top of the music charts

    not too much on transformers

  • splice

    nigga said ye and drake

    Drake is BY FAR a better song writer than Eminem

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    whitegirl

    90s nas had amazing production tho

    Jayz has longevity but at their peaks nas rivals jayz musically

    idk man i think nas is such a good rapper that he can make any beat sound good. i didn't know that ether beat was ass until i heard Remy Ma rap on it. its the opposite with Jay for me. He can become boring if he's not rapping on Kanye, Pharrel and Just Blaze production. He has a very good ear for beats. Determining who's better "musically" is weird cuz i think nas is a better rapper than Jay at almost every category except making commercial sounding music

  • Aisosa

    Jay Z is more descriptive and uses more literary devices while Eminem is more down to earth and plain-spoken?

    Do you even read Hemingway?

    the economy of the language is on a different scale what do you mean?

  • Aisosa

    Jay Z is more descriptive and uses more literary devices while Eminem is more down to earth and plain-spoken?

    Do you even read Hemingway?

    f***ing rap god being called plain spoken is amazing to me, thanks for the jokes

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    also if you want me to actually engage with this, i'll offer that "being a great songwriter' isn't relegated to working on your own music. and in that respect Jay clears em

  • Mark Moschino

    also if you want me to actually engage with this, i'll offer that "being a great songwriter' isn't relegated to working on your own music. and in that respect Jay clears em

    Please explain

  • Mark Moschino

    f***ing rap god being called plain spoken is amazing to me, thanks for the jokes

    You rap fast three times and people make it your whole personality

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    redios

    idk man i think nas is such a good rapper that he can make any beat sound good. i didn't know that ether beat was ass until i heard Remy Ma rap on it. its the opposite with Jay for me. He can become boring if he's not rapping on Kanye, Pharrel and Just Blaze production. He has a very good ear for beats. Determining who's better "musically" is weird cuz i think nas is a better rapper than Jay at almost every category except making commercial sounding music

    Honestly thats fair and like i said i think jay is overrated as a lyricist

    I was listening to reasonable doubt yesterday and some of his verses are underwhelming

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    whitegirl

    Honestly thats fair and like i said i think jay is overrated as a lyricist

    I was listening to reasonable doubt yesterday and some of his verses are underwhelming

    i think his fans overate his lyricism for sure because he's not as commercially successful as Drake or Eminem, not as lyrical as Nas, or influential artistically as Wayne or Kanye so they have to give him this "amazing at everything" argument for his goat status. The truth is he's a great lyricist who dumbed it down for the public and got extra sales for it. no need to retcon his career as this rapper who was putting out lyrical masterpieces. That's Nas for me

  • notbrock

    Encore
    Relapse (Dre did his part tho)
    Recovery
    MMLP2
    Revival
    Kamikaze
    MTBMB
    MTBMB - Side B
    Death of Slim Shady

    What other hip hop artist has this many bombs?

    notice how you didn’t include Bad Meets Evil bc Royce carried

  • huey p rxcan

    you gotta be like 15

    Only a 39 year old man would make this thread in 2026. Bro was prolly on kanyetalk

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    Aisosa

    BP3 had some of the trashest raps I've heard from a GOAT.

    It was so bad that Ye (who's an average rapper) completely outclassed him on Run This Town

    Em unironically said “i’m rubber and you’re glue so anything you say bounces off of me and sticks to you” on Rap God. if BP3 is your standard for s***ty rap, Eminem is in the sewers

  • afterimage

    Eminem is still one of the greatest rappers of all time, think every rapper from his era and later still give him his flowers they would laugh at this take

    He’s not, but glad you feel that way bro

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    SABMAN TURNT

    Em unironically said “i’m rubber and you’re glue so anything you say bounces off of me and sticks to you” on Rap God. if BP3 is your standard for s***ty rap, Eminem is in the sewers

    Jay z in 2013
    “1 million, 2 million, 3 million, oh I'm so good at math”

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    Dipset Forever

    Because he is

    Eminem is a medicore artist that gets gas because of the era he came out in

    Nah we know the real reason he gets gassed and it's cause he's white and rap fast.

  • SABMAN TURNT

    Em unironically said “i’m rubber and you’re glue so anything you say bounces off of me and sticks to you” on Rap God. if BP3 is your standard for s***ty rap, Eminem is in the sewers

  • why has no one noticed he put Nelly over Jay z as a writer

  • NYT is bought and paid for by whoever is the highest bidder

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    redios

    Jay Z is only 3 years older than Eminem yet it feels like much of his musical legacy is based on myth which is insane. None of the numbers support the high pedestal his fans try to put him on, especially in the streaming era which favors strong discographies. A house of cards legacy built on buzzwords like “culture”, “Grammys”, and “black excellence”. I guess you get to rewrite history when you’re a billionaire married to beyonce

    Niggas that wasn't there should hush.

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    LaSean

    Niggas that wasn't there should hush.

    you wanna retcon history so bad cuz your god dumbed down his lyrics just to keep getting his ass whooped by a white rapper

  • LaSean

    Nah we know the real reason he gets gassed and it's cause he's white and rap fast.

    That too, being the only mainstream white rapper of that era is the reason he gets a ton of gas

  • Mark Moschino

    also if you want me to actually engage with this, i'll offer that "being a great songwriter' isn't relegated to working on your own music. and in that respect Jay clears em

    Eminem beats >>>> jay Z raps

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    Eminem’s made like 2 decent beats in his entire career

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