Okay, so then why say “millions of people disagree”
Who gives a s*** what millions of people think? The masses eat up bullshit all the time in numerous mediums of art
The Transformers movies made bank
Call of Duty makes bank every year
There’s always bullshit at the top of the music charts
not too much on transformers
90s nas had amazing production tho
Jayz has longevity but at their peaks nas rivals jayz musically
idk man i think nas is such a good rapper that he can make any beat sound good. i didn't know that ether beat was ass until i heard Remy Ma rap on it. its the opposite with Jay for me. He can become boring if he's not rapping on Kanye, Pharrel and Just Blaze production. He has a very good ear for beats. Determining who's better "musically" is weird cuz i think nas is a better rapper than Jay at almost every category except making commercial sounding music
Jay Z is more descriptive and uses more literary devices while Eminem is more down to earth and plain-spoken?
Do you even read Hemingway?
the economy of the language is on a different scale what do you mean?
Jay Z is more descriptive and uses more literary devices while Eminem is more down to earth and plain-spoken?
Do you even read Hemingway?
f***ing rap god being called plain spoken is amazing to me, thanks for the jokes
also if you want me to actually engage with this, i'll offer that "being a great songwriter' isn't relegated to working on your own music. and in that respect Jay clears em
also if you want me to actually engage with this, i'll offer that "being a great songwriter' isn't relegated to working on your own music. and in that respect Jay clears em
Please explain
f***ing rap god being called plain spoken is amazing to me, thanks for the jokes
You rap fast three times and people make it your whole personality
idk man i think nas is such a good rapper that he can make any beat sound good. i didn't know that ether beat was ass until i heard Remy Ma rap on it. its the opposite with Jay for me. He can become boring if he's not rapping on Kanye, Pharrel and Just Blaze production. He has a very good ear for beats. Determining who's better "musically" is weird cuz i think nas is a better rapper than Jay at almost every category except making commercial sounding music
Honestly thats fair and like i said i think jay is overrated as a lyricist
I was listening to reasonable doubt yesterday and some of his verses are underwhelming
Honestly thats fair and like i said i think jay is overrated as a lyricist
I was listening to reasonable doubt yesterday and some of his verses are underwhelming
i think his fans overate his lyricism for sure because he's not as commercially successful as Drake or Eminem, not as lyrical as Nas, or influential artistically as Wayne or Kanye so they have to give him this "amazing at everything" argument for his goat status. The truth is he's a great lyricist who dumbed it down for the public and got extra sales for it. no need to retcon his career as this rapper who was putting out lyrical masterpieces. That's Nas for me
Encore
Relapse (Dre did his part tho)
Recovery
MMLP2
Revival
Kamikaze
MTBMB
MTBMB - Side B
Death of Slim Shady
What other hip hop artist has this many bombs?
notice how you didn’t include Bad Meets Evil bc Royce carried
you gotta be like 15
Only a 39 year old man would make this thread in 2026. Bro was prolly on kanyetalk
BP3 had some of the trashest raps I've heard from a GOAT.
It was so bad that Ye (who's an average rapper) completely outclassed him on Run This Town
Em unironically said “i’m rubber and you’re glue so anything you say bounces off of me and sticks to you” on Rap God. if BP3 is your standard for s***ty rap, Eminem is in the sewers
Eminem is still one of the greatest rappers of all time, think every rapper from his era and later still give him his flowers they would laugh at this take
He’s not, but glad you feel that way bro
Em unironically said “i’m rubber and you’re glue so anything you say bounces off of me and sticks to you” on Rap God. if BP3 is your standard for s***ty rap, Eminem is in the sewers
Jay z in 2013
“1 million, 2 million, 3 million, oh I'm so good at math”
Because he is
Eminem is a medicore artist that gets gas because of the era he came out in
Nah we know the real reason he gets gassed and it's cause he's white and rap fast.
Em unironically said “i’m rubber and you’re glue so anything you say bounces off of me and sticks to you” on Rap God. if BP3 is your standard for s***ty rap, Eminem is in the sewers
why has no one noticed he put Nelly over Jay z as a writer
NYT is bought and paid for by whoever is the highest bidder
Jay Z is only 3 years older than Eminem yet it feels like much of his musical legacy is based on myth which is insane. None of the numbers support the high pedestal his fans try to put him on, especially in the streaming era which favors strong discographies. A house of cards legacy built on buzzwords like “culture”, “Grammys”, and “black excellence”. I guess you get to rewrite history when you’re a billionaire married to beyonce
Niggas that wasn't there should hush.
Niggas that wasn't there should hush.
you wanna retcon history so bad cuz your god dumbed down his lyrics just to keep getting his ass whooped by a white rapper
Nah we know the real reason he gets gassed and it's cause he's white and rap fast.
That too, being the only mainstream white rapper of that era is the reason he gets a ton of gas
also if you want me to actually engage with this, i'll offer that "being a great songwriter' isn't relegated to working on your own music. and in that respect Jay clears em
Eminem beats >>>> jay Z raps