U spent two paragraphs explaining how good frank ocean's music is because he was influenced by the coolest s*** from the "cultural spaces" he occupied (very subjective but ok)

Then proceeded to call "Influence" a goofy and nebulous metric

I'm genuinely confused

Because he isn’t. It’s actually really simple

Expand on this please

ur right, both parameters are subjective

but, subjectively, I think the first one is not as goofy as influence.

his two brain cells are jousting for first place, disregard

this talk of music being holistically subjective is a product of materialism, it’s genuinely amazing how much this mindset permeates this society

only over here in the U.S you will see critically acclaimed, highly impactful, influential albums etc. be completely neutered and devalued to how someone feels about it, because… reasons

s*** is so egocentric it makes me nauseous

By “generation” do we mean era of music, a certain age cohort, etc. ? Frank is no longer a significant player in music and has been gone for a while, but he was def a top tier artist of the 2010s.

Better songwriting than half the industry.

Some art take time

How did blonde do that in your opinion

Look at songs like Bad Religion, Crack Rock, White Ferrari, Sierra Leone

It takes talent to use metaphors for entire song concepts

The way he says things is not just “I loved you, you hurt me, now I’m running away”

He will tell stories with good imagery and metaphors, it’s hard to do that in a way that doesn’t sound forced while STILL having emotional impact

What are some other acts like him in that sense; examples of the music that rap fans in that sense would abandon rap for

How is he talking nonsense on DHL but not nights

Seem like very similar songs lol

Just saw it yesterday, this is 100% what he’s been doing for 7 years

All downhill after Chanel->Biking->Lens->Provider all came out. I’m guessing he was readying a new album with all that but became dissatisfied with it.

Frank is definitely overrated. He’s a great artist though. But not to the level his Stan’s make him out to be. But that’s what Stan’s do so 🤷🏾‍♂️

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I can see him being overrated.m, but it’s rare for me to like albums as much as I do CO & Blonde.

these albums really important in folks lives, you can say it’s tumblr inspired but a whole generation fell in love with the content through that

wow this is actually a pretty good a***ysis i can’t even lie

?

The way you typed it was like you had someone or something specific in mind and I was genuinely asking

I guess not lol

He might be but he’s also a legend.

This is how I feel. I enjoy his music but I don’t think he’s the second coming like most people believe. Also, I just have a thing against artist who not only can’t perform live, but are unprofessional at that.

if the genre is mid than yeah