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  • Mar 5, 2022

    industry connects prolly idk

    i mean yea he's talented and hardworking and genius at creating consistent products

  • Mar 5, 2022

    you wouldn't want to know

  • Mar 5, 2022
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    Stay Healthy

    max has talent but its important that at some level, past success litterally creates new success. His legacy does work on the success of new music he does commerically via placements

    thats not true man. other producers work with all sorts of a-listers. Pharrell's been in the studio with anybody with a pulse. Max has nonstop unparalleled quantity and consistency seen by no other songwriter before him

  • Mar 5, 2022
    Kodak Spice

    thats not true man. other producers work with all sorts of a-listers. Pharrell's been in the studio with anybody with a pulse. Max has nonstop unparalleled quantity and consistency seen by no other songwriter before him

    i wasnt reffering to placements with artists, sorry about the confusion. A record with max martins name on it can move through white radio extremely effectively off the name alone. His new success is literally created on his past run. His name is a loved by labels as well

  • Mar 5, 2022
    ClanWay

    Damn some of these records I didn't even know he did

    Out of Time from XO is crazy good, but that's kind of where I'm about to go with this.

    He's obviously a genius level songwriter, but so much of what makes a song successful or a "hit" goes beyond a songwriter's ability. It really comes down to how hot or buzzing an act is, how much legwork the act has done, how willing the label is to get behind the record, how willing the act is to work the record, etc.

    Things that go far beyond the songwriter's talents. He's a genius and he's written a ton of my favorite records ever but his impact on hit records is definitely over emphasized.

    There's obviously other factors but you could say this about any producer or run. A few producers/writers - Neptunes, Dre, Nile Rodgers, Burt Bacharach, Holland-Dozier-Holland etc.. Seem to be able to tap into a sound or style of writing that transcends artist or specific songs and becomes way more popular than any individual artist/song that's part of it.

    Also early on his career when he wasn't a known factor, it says a lot that artists listening to a ton of songs from the world's best writers, picked his songs. And then the labels saw those songs as lead singles and not just album tracks.

    Plus songs can chart off buzz but idk if they can have that much staying power without strong songwriting. It's hard to fluke a hit rate as high as his. Even most top producers/writers have more misses than him

  • Mar 5, 2022
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    Does the industry rely on him because he’s good or is he good because the industry relies on him?

  • Mar 5, 2022
    Stay Healthy

    max has talent but its important that at some level, past success litterally creates new success. His legacy does work on the success of new music he does commerically via placements

    totally

    but it's pretty hard to get that initial success in the first place. Also plenty of producers with access like him (Pharrell for parts of this decade, Mark Ronson in multiple quiet periods) seem to miss way more. The access helps get him placements but it doesn't guarantee a song will work or won't get scrapped. I imagine pop artists demo a s*** ton of songs, especially ones who are barely involved with writing like RiRi or Britney, presumably top writers with access are having their songs scrapped all the time

  • Kodak Spice

    he has that one interview from 2015 have u seen it

    I heard one new interview with him. It was so wasted on Jessie Ware and her mum lmao. Jessie Ware's Mum was like "so Max, how do people know how to play your songs after you've written them if you don't write sheet music"

  • Mar 5, 2022

    It sounds dated tho, s*** been stale since 2016

  • Mar 5, 2022
    lovetalkgames

    Does the industry rely on him because he’s good or is he good because the industry relies on him?

    Is it chris cant rap or chris can trap?

  • Mar 5, 2022

    im tired of max martin tbh

  • RASIE 🦦
    Mar 5, 2022
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    Its just the Chiron style of songwriting that his mentors invented in the very early 90s (the guys behind Ace of Base). It started with basically flipping Abba songs. It was literally a formula for success created by genius swedes, who then passed it onto max martin (and a couple ofhers).

    Track and hook songwriting has also been a standard in the industry for over 2 decades, which makes it even easier for the formula to succeed

  • Mar 5, 2022
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    I'm just tired him and Abel making 80s nostalgia music

  • Mar 5, 2022

    dude cranks out the hits whew

  • RASIE 🦦
    Mar 5, 2022
    FASHION DEMON

    I'm just tired him and Abel making 80s nostalgia music

    You should have been tired of that 10 years ago when the trend first started getting old

  • Mar 5, 2022

    he's swedish