to get a reaction with 3 question marks

True it is nice that people here do actually care about good music

I wasn't really talking about ktt2 though. I was talking about the spread of other discourse in other platforms. Obviously on this site there are people who do like good music which is nice.

Also LOL at the Casey veggies name drop

1. Women are the predominant "consumers" of music. Cater to the market, when an artist aims to make a club records, they're subsequently attempting to appeal to the consuming demographic... Women. But now those women ARE the rappers.

2. Women are playing catch-up. Rap and Hip Hop have been a male dominated genre and industry since its inception. We've already had 50 years of men sticking to convention, now it's the women's turn while their male contemporaries are incentivized to experiment. Yachty can make a rock album, whereas female rap isn't in the space where Megan Thee Stallion can come out with a full RnB album.

Damn he just like me

Kids like to piss off adults its just natural order

Our gen was doing the same s*** when we were young, when you would see funny takes like Waka Flocka > Beatles out of nowhere

Dont take it too seroously man. A lot of the younger gen loves and respects older music.

Look on the bright side.. the fact that there is discourse means there is pushback from the direction rap is trending towards.

protest music enjoyer

facts. younger generation dont care

i know we’re in a bad place when i start considering yachty a good rapper

daily rap bad now thread

i feel like this generation respects older music more than like millennials respected older music there’s definitely a demand for that lane

This convo is tired, rap sold its self out 3x over, and all these stupid sub-generes within the medium has clouded the newer generation on what a rapper is suppose to be, while also devaluing the craft of actually being a rapper. We're at a point where anyone can be a rapper, we're at a point where being a rapper is basically just being an entertainer, cause the genre is so amateur hour now.

Hip Hop let all those people who would call real lyricist like a Lupe "stupid", join in, and actually make Hip Hop stupid as hell, cause those outsiders thought this s*** was a joke in the first place. This conversation is just tired, move on.

This s*** ebbs and flows. If you’re actually old enough to remember you’d know we’re in no worse state than we were during the ringtone era

Ehh, debatable

Nostalgia goggles aside, people weren't s***ting on the classics back in the day calling it protest/Harriet Tubman music. Maybe backpacking, but eh, even then.

As a white man myself born from two black parents, I disagree with everything you said.

I love the direction hip hop discourse is going in and I hope it continues to get worse, or in my opinion better.

Damn you 31!? @op i thought you were like 27 no cap

Lupe objectively has made some worse music than a lot of these young kids

Key word "objectively", Lupe has proven himself within his craft vs Young dudes with 0 craft beyond what their bosses/execs think and how to fit into current trends.

what did you think of A Dog's Chance

I think the s*** that appeals to the most ppl possible got popular, the other s*** is still there u just gotta look for it it never went away

You mean this

pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/polo-perks-feardorian-ayoolii-a-dogs-chance

Haven't even heard of it, until you mentioned it, gonna give it a listen

Brother people absolutely were s***ting on Illmatic calling that s*** boring in 07

it went downhill once melz got banned