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  • sabbaroni 🧔🏻
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    Side Nigha
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    Lol it’s basic psychology and evolution. If something does not bring you some sort of benefit, why would you do it? Even ‘selfless’ acts like charity bring you some intrinsic psychological sense of good. Whether the benefit is ‘emotive’ or monetary is irrelevant.

    what are you even talking about? people do self-destructive things all the time. it’s not basic psychology at all lol

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    sabbaroni

    what are you even talking about? people do self-destructive things all the time. it’s not basic psychology at all lol

    Way to pivot lol

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    Side Nigha

    This is horrible logic. First of all they do not NEED the money. Who in their right mind is taking out loans for food and basics? Virtually no one. People take out loans on ventures or assets they believe will add EXCESS value to their lives.

    Also recognize that virtually every institution or business out there has some outstanding debt. A loan does not mean you are impoverished. Aapl, the biggest company ever, has 200MM in outstanding debt, but they are in better financial shape than the vast majority of their creditors.

    It’s simply a tool to allow more liquidity and leverage. Unfortunately most people do not understand it but that is irrelevant to it’s ‘intrinsic morality’. I will agree of course that predatory loan structures like the pre-2008 mortgages are cancerous but that is not representative of what debt/interest at large is.

    the idea of interest does not only apply to loans. credit cards for example which someone may use for example are a prime example of why interest is immoral and wrong.

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    Side Nigha

    Lol it’s basic psychology and evolution. If something does not bring you some sort of benefit, why would you do it? Even ‘selfless’ acts like charity bring you some intrinsic psychological sense of good. Whether the benefit is ‘emotive’ or monetary is irrelevant.

    nah man you just a greedy motherfucker

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    your not wrong

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    Side Nigha

    This is horrible logic. First of all they do not NEED the money. Who in their right mind is taking out loans for food and basics? Virtually no one. People take out loans on ventures or assets they believe will add EXCESS value to their lives.

    Also recognize that virtually every institution or business out there has some outstanding debt. A loan does not mean you are impoverished. Aapl, the biggest company ever, has 200MM in outstanding debt, but they are in better financial shape than the vast majority of their creditors.

    It’s simply a tool to allow more liquidity and leverage. Unfortunately most people do not understand it but that is irrelevant to it’s ‘intrinsic morality’. I will agree of course that predatory loan structures like the pre-2008 mortgages are cancerous but that is not representative of what debt/interest at large is.

    The assumption that someone could never be in a position to where they would have to use a loan to pay for necessities in life (food, shelter/rent, or just having more money to get thru regular life until they are working stable/getting regular checks) and other similar assumptions that solely rely on how you grew up is how society/humanity as a whole got here re: capitalism

    "virtually no one" nigga thats still a large percentage of people in a world of billions lol

  • sabbaroni 🧔🏻
    Jan 5, 2021
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    Side Nigha

    Way to pivot lol

    you gave a null hypothesis. i returned a statement to prove the null hypothesis wrong.

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    thats why the jews did banking cause it was immoral for either religion to do what they did

    its not anti-Semitic its just what happened

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    hope to not see any ADL simps come and try clap me

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    banks and other lending places are businesses
    how else would they make money
    and what incentive would anyone have to lend money if they would get more in return

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    Side Nigha

    Why would someone give you money you do not have for free.

    It’s a way to boost liquidity and spur spending and therefore increase economic productivity. This is basic finance.

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    Is this a "The jews" type thread?

    Cause.... some of y'all..

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    it's the lender's way to make risk palatable

    you utilize their time and money to do what you want, there has to be something for it to make sense for lenders in return

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    Cody

    banks and other lending places are businesses
    how else would they make money
    and what incentive would anyone have to lend money if they would get more in return

    how about eliminate the idea of giving out money to people if its useless to you without later profiting from it

    in a pure business/investment/etc. setting where it's purely based off collecting from a business bc of your initial investment, fine.

    but giving loans to regular people for school or just money for life knowing that it's highly unlikely they'll ever be out from under debt with you is f***ing sick

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    also not even hiding the anti-semitism itt

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    SolidSnaku

    also not even hiding the anti-semitism itt

    where is ur avatar from

  • Jan 5, 2021
    Faygo

    the idea of interest does not only apply to loans. credit cards for example which someone may use for example are a prime example of why interest is immoral and wrong.

    Well obviously, but credit cards and loans are a similar concept. Interest still applies, of course with cards it will often be much higher interest and there’s different term structures but ultimately the same concept. There is more money being transferred through interest on loans than credit cards though so I would maybe change the title of the thread if you wanna focus on that.

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    user

    where is ur avatar from

    flcl

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    PS. i don't believe the jews run the world thats not factually true they been hated for very long time

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    Did he get a perma just for that?

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    what is the logic behind the "the jews" posts ITT

    and what is the logic behind it being anti semitism

    im lost on both sides

    im somewhat aware that "people" say that jews are all powerful in hollywood/banking but i never really got into it

    genuinely asking

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    Because no one has to give you money anyway

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    Ooo

    Because no one has to give you money anyway

    So why dangle that option in front of broke people knowing that its going to just trap them into debt lol

    Like why was that accepted to begin with

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    user

    So why dangle that option in front of broke people knowing that its going to just trap them into debt lol

    Like why was that accepted to begin with

    To get more money

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    SolidSnaku

    also not even hiding the anti-semitism itt

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