Dec 13, 2021it could’ve been so much better. but it is a good album
- Dec 13, 2021
MyBallsAndMyWordKanye’s fanbase post 2010 has been overrun by white hipsters. The most dangerous kind of people because they can hide their passive racism behind a thin veneer of faux-progressivism. So there’s two things going on here. A) they prefer “artsy” hip hop because that is more comfortable for their white, indie music sensibilities. JIK is a raw gospel album - a historically black genre of music - and isn’t quirky enough and doesn’t have any Bon Iver features so naturally they want nothing to do with it. B) Even tho they’ll never admit it, they prefer their black entertainers to be wilding out making fools of themselves - as long as it doesn’t offend their liberal proclivities. They can’t stand seeing a black man search for meaning and positivity in his life. This reaction is further exacerbated because it’s explicitly religious music. I’m an atheist but many of these edgy types think religion is a purely evil thing which can’t possibly be a source for some people to grow, change, and better themselves which is false.
So it’s a combination of casual liberal racism and people simply not being actual hip hop fans (which is a byproduct of said racism)
there is an aspect of this going on and i agree. and i wish the album had gone even further and more thoroughly in this direction. that’s what holds it back for me. too short too shallow but i can feel him searching for this meaning. and on Donda it’s clear he’s found it or is on his way. jik still a solid 7 for me, weak kanye is still some great music
Dec 13, 2021·editedJesus Christ, I didn’t know people on this site were this down on the album.
It sounds like a cool blue baptism to me.
It’s a little rough around the edges, static sparking off the sides as it forms its portal.
It sounds like those Turrell pieces Ye took such an interest in.Minimal. Healing. And pure.
I dunno guys, the aesthetic is sort of wavy. And blue. I appreciate the blue.His worst album. But still an electric little pill nonetheless.
Dec 13, 2021JIK is a beautiful healing album during dark times
Dec 13, 2021·1 reply
k dog 99Subject matter is kinda ass
Huh?
- Dec 13, 2021
Skateboard JBecause they don't like that ye was maga.
This is the real reason
- Dec 13, 2021TyrellWellick
Great album. Only hated cause of his then fresh public image of devout-Christian and cause people were expecting Yandhi.
It was a complete 180 from what people were expecting, following songs like XTCY and I Love It.
Great album.
- Dec 13, 2021MyBallsAndMyWord
Kanye’s fanbase post 2010 has been overrun by white hipsters. The most dangerous kind of people because they can hide their passive racism behind a thin veneer of faux-progressivism. So there’s two things going on here. A) they prefer “artsy” hip hop because that is more comfortable for their white, indie music sensibilities. JIK is a raw gospel album - a historically black genre of music - and isn’t quirky enough and doesn’t have any Bon Iver features so naturally they want nothing to do with it. B) Even tho they’ll never admit it, they prefer their black entertainers to be wilding out making fools of themselves - as long as it doesn’t offend their liberal proclivities. They can’t stand seeing a black man search for meaning and positivity in his life. This reaction is further exacerbated because it’s explicitly religious music. I’m an atheist but many of these edgy types think religion is a purely evil thing which can’t possibly be a source for some people to grow, change, and better themselves which is false.
So it’s a combination of casual liberal racism and people simply not being actual hip hop fans (which is a byproduct of said racism)
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- Dec 13, 2021·1 replyDaeHan
Huh?
I'd much rather here the topics of Yeezus, TLOP, and ye than JIK.
- Dec 13, 2021·1 replyk dog 99
I'd much rather here the topics of Yeezus, TLOP, and ye than JIK.
JIK is about finding God, family, and most importantly, finding yourself.
You don’t wanna hear that?
- Dec 13, 2021·1 replyDaeHan
JIK is about finding God, family, and most importantly, finding yourself.
You don’t wanna hear that?
Donda does way better job of articulating some of those points.
JIK is too "Jesus" focused without depth
It has grown on me for sure but glad secular Kanye is able to show himself now more.
Dec 13, 2021the christian theme isn't a problem for me
this album just feels unfinished af
Ultralight Beam was a better attempt at christian hip hop than this whole thing
Dec 13, 2021MyBallsAndMyWordKanye’s fanbase post 2010 has been overrun by white hipsters. The most dangerous kind of people because they can hide their passive racism behind a thin veneer of faux-progressivism. So there’s two things going on here. A) they prefer “artsy” hip hop because that is more comfortable for their white, indie music sensibilities. JIK is a raw gospel album - a historically black genre of music - and isn’t quirky enough and doesn’t have any Bon Iver features so naturally they want nothing to do with it. B) Even tho they’ll never admit it, they prefer their black entertainers to be wilding out making fools of themselves - as long as it doesn’t offend their liberal proclivities. They can’t stand seeing a black man search for meaning and positivity in his life. This reaction is further exacerbated because it’s explicitly religious music. I’m an atheist but many of these edgy types think religion is a purely evil thing which can’t possibly be a source for some people to grow, change, and better themselves which is false.
So it’s a combination of casual liberal racism and people simply not being actual hip hop fans (which is a byproduct of said racism)
Damn
- Dec 13, 2021·edited
Too many blank jesus lyrics without any thought behind them , weak vocal recordings, bad sound quality, everything about that album is lazy as f*uck .
Follow god is the standout track and its only 2 minutes.
Selah, closed on sunday , use this gospel, god is and on god are ok tracks nothing special and the rest is pure garbage
And the most disappointing thing is we could've got one of the best ye tracks of all time - chakras/law of attraction and what we got is this mediocre and boring "use this gospel" with ye preaching in the chorus and basically giving the track to clipse.
Thats why im still anticipating to this eminem and dr dre remix , maybe they will make justice with this beat and push ye to land a verse in there
Dec 13, 2021Every Hour is actually such a good intro track, imagine if it had a beat and when it dropped ye just started spitting.
Dec 13, 2021·editedIt’s the lowest common denominator for a religious album. God is good. I love god. Praise god. Boring. Almost no substance. Donda is a much better gospel album.
It’s just not a good gospel album.
Dec 13, 2021Amazing record. I love it tbh.
- Dec 13, 2021·1 replyk dog 99
Donda does way better job of articulating some of those points.
JIK is too "Jesus" focused without depth
It has grown on me for sure but glad secular Kanye is able to show himself now more.
To each his own
But question- Who are we to say the level of acceptable depth?
If he (Kanye) felt these lyrics, who are we to say we need him to go deeper?
Dec 13, 2021the reason why jesus is king stinks to me is because he jesusified a bunch of existing records that were not jesus songs.
he basically did some kids bop sunday school s*** and just went back and changed words to make them god themed which is corny as hell to me and makes it feel flat and forced.
Donda on the other hand does the christian thing right. It's natural music that just happens to use his faith as a core element (similar to jesus walks) and that's why it feels and sounds so much better.
k w 🇵🇸Dec 13, 2021Some good ideas on it but only 3 or so songs sound complete
Overall just sounds like it was getting there midway through the making of the album and instead of finishing it they just turned it in- Dec 13, 2021DaeHan
To each his own
But question- Who are we to say the level of acceptable depth?
If he (Kanye) felt these lyrics, who are we to say we need him to go deeper?
He doesn't have to go deeper, it just makes for a worse album.
Kanye can do whatever he wants, JIK just felt like a him trying to turn Yandhi into prayer and that's it
KEV 💥Dec 13, 2021clearly his worst project but I ain't mad at it since we got Sunday Service Choir from the process
Dec 14, 2021amazing album and Closed on Sunday's second half is one of the best Ye verses of the last 5 years
people just stuck on the chick fil a lines
Dec 14, 2021MyBallsAndMyWordKanye’s fanbase post 2010 has been overrun by white hipsters. The most dangerous kind of people because they can hide their passive racism behind a thin veneer of faux-progressivism. So there’s two things going on here. A) they prefer “artsy” hip hop because that is more comfortable for their white, indie music sensibilities. JIK is a raw gospel album - a historically black genre of music - and isn’t quirky enough and doesn’t have any Bon Iver features so naturally they want nothing to do with it. B) Even tho they’ll never admit it, they prefer their black entertainers to be wilding out making fools of themselves - as long as it doesn’t offend their liberal proclivities. They can’t stand seeing a black man search for meaning and positivity in his life. This reaction is further exacerbated because it’s explicitly religious music. I’m an atheist but many of these edgy types think religion is a purely evil thing which can’t possibly be a source for some people to grow, change, and better themselves which is false.
So it’s a combination of casual liberal racism and people simply not being actual hip hop fans (which is a byproduct of said racism)
You do realize that a lot of black people think this album is ass too right? I get what you’re saying but I’ve found that a lot more white people defend this album over a lot of black people lol
Also considering, he did lose a lot of black fans with MAGA so maybe they skipped over this one and Ye cause he was in a weird period
Dec 14, 2021I didn't hate on JIK, I was just a little dissapointed that all the stuff around that album aka Sunday Services, studio videos, JIK Movie seemed much more awesome then the final 24 minute album.
It's like I expected a meal, but it was just a dessert