I literally said that in my post some agree and some didn't. I have nothing else to say to these. niggas idk why they keep quoting me

I was objectively right in my point. Idk what else they want me to say. they on my gonads rn

I think the main take away is "grime isn't a subgenre of hiphop"

after all the receipts posted itt, I don't think anyone can argue against that tbh

The main takeaway is "grime wouldn't be what it is without hip hop" and that these euros will bat against that until death

niggas rappin over powerpuff girls beats im cool on it

I love hip-hop much more, but I really think it's cool to see how the same starting point (Jamaican sound system culture) led to two totally different lines of evolution.

I wonder if such a thing is possible again? Or did the Internet make everything more homogenized?

There is no proof for your statement other than it being your personal opinion

The irony is that British MCs have music that they openly admit is just their take on hip-hop. British rap was around a few years before grime (had a totally different scene), and stuff like big beat (an electronic genre) is influenced heavily by New York boom bap drums. Instead, you insist that the one genre of MC music most removed from hip-hop is somehow a product of it.

best thing outta uk

no but we had grimes and thats better

I think none of us disagreed with that
Doesnt make it hiphop tho

The takes keep getting hotter itt

I wouldn't even count on Dizzee Rascal knowing about Three Six Mafia back then

Edit: He basically says he liked the way their hooks were, thats not really as much of an influence as you try to say it was with your post

Dizzee on grime and his beginnings: "Grime is soundsystem culture. That's basically what it is, yeah. Me personally: I grew up listening to drum'n'bass, UK garage—which originally came from America. I listened to hip-hop. I listened to grunge, too. First off I was a drum'n'bass DJ. I mixed records, then eventually I started MCing. So I learned to rap fast. I learned to rap at like 170bpm first, then I slowed down later. You had the drum'n'bass scene, then the UK garage scene took over, and we were kind of on the back-end of the UK garage scene. When the UK garage scene got a bit bougie and the clubs wouldn't let us in—the hooded kids with the trainers, you know how it is? We were trying to get into the clubs and we couldn't get in, so eventually we did our own thing—making our own music and our own beats. You had people like me, Wiley, Roll Deep, More Fire Crew, N.A.S.T.Y Crew, Ruff Squad—all over London, with different pirate radio stations. It's a pirate radio based scene."

Dizzee on his early influences: "I was really influenced by Three Six Mafia. Tracks like "I Love U"—I had tracks before that were I actually sampled Three Six Mafia, but "I Love U" was my first attempt at doing the whole "I, I, I, love you." That's how they repeated their hooks. So crunk, what ended up becoming trap now, I was onto that then. That's what I was hugely influenced by.

hey man, please make your threads public, i'm tryna have some laughs​

Americans, is this hiphop or dancehall?

true but the grime historians itt aren't all "euros" tho

Euros kiwis blokes
they all got bloodborne monster teeth it make no difference

^^?