SEGA GOON

4y

It's not a genre meant for albums tbh. Electronic music is different. Hip-hop has highly choreographed, carefully sequenced classic albums. Grime never really did

SEGA GOON

4y

UK hip-hop got more popular than grime for a while I think, so the lines are more blurry nowadays.

For example, here is a grime song by Dizzee Rascal off the first classic grime album. Grime didn't really use albums prior to this point, it was more a (radio/DJ) playlist based genre, since electronic music in general doesn't put emphasis on albums.

Later, Dizzee "sold out" and went UK rap:

This song with Calvin Harrsi is basically indistinguishable from US hip-hop, besides the accent of course. Flow, drums would all fit into a US song.

This song was in his rap phase but the instrumental is more electronic than what US rappers did at the time.

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4y

I think the disconnect is people don’t understand hip hop is a culture the envelops any form of emceeing. The argument that grimes is different because it stems from reggaeton and pirate radio and mcing over other beats. I had no idea there even was a bunch if people arguing this wasnt hip hop. Its spiritually the same thing. And thats what the UK is missing out on, the spiritual culture of Hip Hop. It’s perplexing the desire to differentiate it so aggressively under the guise that calling it Hip Hop would cause it to “lose it’s meaning” or “ignore it’s history”.

Lit

4y

in case anyone feels like discussing grime on a regular basis here
https://ktt2.com/grime-thread-yes-the-dead-genre-32514946

DonutHole

4y

not beat your mom music lmaooooooooooooooooooo

I like how some of it reminds me of west indian and african music

I highkey want it more "aggressive" tbh

let's beat up the whole block, idc

Water Giver

4y

The other issue is that most dont breakdown the difference.

It either vague tale or ignored.

And on the US side/interaction, people use UK "Rap" as a way to insult, undermine & wash American Rap & Rap fans. Which obviously will put Americans off since Rap/HipHop is also such an American thing. People saying "it different" but still trying to jump into Rap talks while simultaneously s***ting on the "birthplace".

So a lot of Grime/Drill etc. has a negative connotation from the jump with a lot of USA people, including myself.

I get it now, but its still a not only confusing thing, but negative thing to a lot of Americans because how its usually presented to us; as a fight & "white washing".

MyBallsAndMyWord

4y

If you like aggressive then here’s a few aggressive grime tracks

One of the most legendary freestyles

Not as aggressive but he goes in. Crazy drop too

This just a instrumental but it’s one of my favorites ever and makes me wanna break s***

This set is crazy, free the legend Titch

And this whole set (one of the greatest grime sets ever)

@02Shaq these are more specifically on the aggressive tip but you might like some of them

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4y

Is anyone arguing that grimes isnt hip hop know about kool herc?

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4y

I think the disconnect is people don’t understand hip hop is a culture the envelops any form of emceeing. The argument that grimes is different because it stems from reggaeton and pirate radio and mcing over other beats. I had no idea there even was a bunch if people arguing this wasnt hip hop. Its spiritually the same thing. And thats what the UK is missing out on, the spiritual culture of Hip Hop. It’s perplexing the desire to differentiate it so aggressively under the guise that calling it Hip Hop would cause it to “lose it’s meaning” or “ignore it’s history”.

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4y

Well the pretentiousness of trying to differentiate it from Hip Hop without understanding the culture and coming from something clearly inspired by it doesn’t help with the whitewashing argument..

DonutHole

4y

why is it a dead genre?

Oblivion X

4y

Yes lol

MyBallsAndMyWord

4y

If you like aggressive then here’s a few aggressive grime tracks

One of the most legendary freestyles

Not as aggressive but he goes in. Crazy drop too

This just a instrumental but it’s one of my favorites ever and makes me wanna break s***

This set is crazy, free the legend Titch

And this whole set (one of the greatest grime sets ever)

@02Shaq these are more specifically on the aggressive tip but you might like some of them

DonutHole

4y

sir, what is jungle ?

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4y

If you know about kool herc, grandmaster flash, etc and you don’t overstand that grimes is a form of Hip Hop culture you lost the plot somewhere

DonutHole

4y

sir, what is jungle ?

SHAQUILLE

4y

I used to think grime was just an interchangeable name for uk hip hop

TragedyBerlusconi

4y

the most aggressive form of rapping you've had was Xxxtentacion

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4y

Hip Hop was just rapping over disco and reggaeton music for hours at illegal block party raves in the bronx. It wasn’t albums.

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4y

If you know about kool herc, grandmaster flash, etc and you don’t overstand that grimes is a form of Hip Hop culture you lost the plot somewhere