Jun 3, 2022·1 reply
KILLA CAM 300All you niggas wrong mfs rapping is hip hop
idc idc idc idckillacam is this hiphop too?
Jun 3, 2022·edited·1 replyDonutHoleyeah these tracks not it for me tbh
the "aggressive" stuff posted before sounds waaaaaay better
Nah that s*** just sounds like noise I'll stick to US for my Slap a Nigga s***
- Jun 3, 2022·1 reply
SHAQUILLENah I see what they’re saying tbh.
Grime and hip hop both evolved from a common ancestor. They are related, and one has been influenced by the other but they are still different things
Same
S/o @cloud_rap for actually explaining it + examples instead of being vague, patronizing or insulting about it
Jun 3, 2022MyBallsAndMyWordSkip to 13:50 of this and tell me y’all not f***ing with it. The whole first 15 minutes is some of the best music ever put together but I know yall got short attention spans so I’m pointing you to the track I think yall are most likely to f*** with
!https://youtu.be/i9aOomE3udoReal
- Jun 3, 2022
If you’re a white US suburbanite then i better not see you making fun of londoners for being ‘soft’
- Jun 3, 2022SHAQUILLE
Nah I see what they’re saying tbh.
Grime and hip hop both evolved from a common ancestor. They are related, and one has been influenced by the other but they are still different things
I agree they related and i agree one was influenced by the other
I dont agree with the same ancestor thing because Hip hop already one of Grimes ancestors to begin with
So all ya saying “grime and hip hop are cousins” no ya wrong grime is hip hops nephew
- Jun 3, 2022
Also I should mention the entire genre of trip-hop, primarily a 90s genre. Has hip-hop boom bap drums and vinyl scratching mixed with atmospheric alt-rock stuff.
Here's the Cypress Hill producer DJ Muggs doing an trip-hop album in the 00s.
IMO you gotta have the right mood for this music
Jun 3, 2022everyone on this planet shares music
that garbage is iust a click away
- Jun 3, 2022·2 repliesSEGA GOON
I prefer more atmospheric stuff I guess. Some folks like the "beat your mom" music more. There's aggressive drum & bass too, and jungle can sound quite harsh at times IMO.
To each his own
not beat your mom music lmaooooooooooooooooooo
I like how some of it reminds me of west indian and african music
I highkey want it more "aggressive" tbh
let's beat up the whole block, idc
Jun 3, 2022Blimey mate oy
Jun 3, 2022·1 replyI feew bat fow Amewicans vey nevuh ‘ad groime
- Jun 3, 2022·1 replySaintJitterxburgFL
I feew bat fow Amewicans vey nevuh ‘ad groime
- Jun 3, 2022DonutHole
killacam is this hiphop too?
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVN6VRpTQ8Na i just know this hiphop idc
- Jun 3, 2022·2 repliesWater Giver
Nah that s*** just sounds like noise I'll stick to US for my Slap a Nigga s***
some of it is a bit messy tbh especially when u'r used to hiphop production
Jun 3, 2022·edited·3 repliesKILLA CAM 300Imagine mfs that made west coast gangsta rap started saying “we not hip hop”
I think the disconnect is people don’t understand hip hop is a culture the envelops any form of emceeing. The argument that grimes is different because it stems from reggaeton and pirate radio and mcing over other beats. I had no idea there even was a bunch if people arguing this wasnt hip hop. Its spiritually the same thing. And thats what the UK is missing out on, the spiritual culture of Hip Hop. It’s perplexing the desire to differentiate it so aggressively under the guise that calling it Hip Hop would cause it to “lose it’s meaning” or “ignore it’s history”.
Jun 3, 2022space0cadetWe got grime with drake
all we needed yall dumb as s***
- Jun 3, 2022Delete this now· edited
I think the disconnect is people don’t understand hip hop is a culture the envelops any form of emceeing. The argument that grimes is different because it stems from reggaeton and pirate radio and mcing over other beats. I had no idea there even was a bunch if people arguing this wasnt hip hop. Its spiritually the same thing. And thats what the UK is missing out on, the spiritual culture of Hip Hop. It’s perplexing the desire to differentiate it so aggressively under the guise that calling it Hip Hop would cause it to “lose it’s meaning” or “ignore it’s history”.
Well said
- Jun 3, 2022·3 repliesSHAQUILLE
@op
@cloud_rap
@DontAtMeY’all are right it ain’t hip hop I was hating
UK hip-hop got more popular than grime for a while I think, so the lines are more blurry nowadays.
For example, here is a grime song by Dizzee Rascal off the first classic grime album. Grime didn't really use albums prior to this point, it was more a (radio/DJ) playlist based genre, since electronic music in general doesn't put emphasis on albums.
Later, Dizzee "sold out" and went UK rap:
This song with Calvin Harrsi is basically indistinguishable from US hip-hop, besides the accent of course. Flow, drums would all fit into a US song.
This song was in his rap phase but the instrumental is more electronic than what US rappers did at the time.
Jun 3, 2022Time for some earl grey bruv
- Jun 3, 2022DonutHole
some of it is a bit messy tbh especially when u'r used to hiphop production
Yeah my DMX, Cube, Wu, 36, Waka, XXX, Ski Mask, ASAP Rocky etc. still got legit compositions n structure
And the few UK Rap I do like is usually more US influenced/geared
Im not mad it tho, never been mad at the sound just the people that use it as pretentiousness
- Jun 3, 2022·2 repliesSEGA GOON
UK hip-hop got more popular than grime for a while I think, so the lines are more blurry nowadays.
For example, here is a grime song by Dizzee Rascal off the first classic grime album. Grime didn't really use albums prior to this point, it was more a (radio/DJ) playlist based genre, since electronic music in general doesn't put emphasis on albums.
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7m9zZLy-1U!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X_idmIH934Later, Dizzee "sold out" and went UK rap:
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQy93M9m8cUThis song with Calvin Harrsi is basically indistinguishable from US hip-hop, besides the accent of course. Flow, drums would all fit into a US song.
This song was in his rap phase but the instrumental is more electronic than what US rappers did at the time.
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISy0Hl0SBfgsir, what is jungle ?
- Jun 3, 2022·1 replyDonutHole
some of it is a bit messy tbh especially when u'r used to hiphop production
It's not a genre meant for albums tbh. Electronic music is different. Hip-hop has highly choreographed, carefully sequenced classic albums. Grime never really did
- Jun 3, 2022·1 reply
in case anyone feels like discussing grime on a regular basis here
ktt2.com/grime-thread-yes-the-dead-genre-32514946 
Jun 3, 2022You realize American culture is the reason why Grime exist?
- Jun 3, 2022·1 replySEGA GOON
UK hip-hop got more popular than grime for a while I think, so the lines are more blurry nowadays.
For example, here is a grime song by Dizzee Rascal off the first classic grime album. Grime didn't really use albums prior to this point, it was more a (radio/DJ) playlist based genre, since electronic music in general doesn't put emphasis on albums.
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7m9zZLy-1U!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X_idmIH934Later, Dizzee "sold out" and went UK rap:
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQy93M9m8cUThis song with Calvin Harrsi is basically indistinguishable from US hip-hop, besides the accent of course. Flow, drums would all fit into a US song.
This song was in his rap phase but the instrumental is more electronic than what US rappers did at the time.
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISy0Hl0SBfgI used to think grime was just an interchangeable name for uk hip hop
