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  • Nov 13, 2023
    WESTSIDE
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    Have a close friend who can’t stop bringing up redpill s*** to save his life. Has caused a great strain in our relationship. I’ll try to hoop with him or chill and drink and watch a fight/game and it will eventually turn into him lecturing me about women, trying to have me watch some manosphere or passport bro video or some other s***.

    Dam

  • Nov 13, 2023

    It‘s joever y‘all

  • WESTSIDE

    Have a close friend who can’t stop bringing up redpill s*** to save his life. Has caused a great strain in our relationship. I’ll try to hoop with him or chill and drink and watch a fight/game and it will eventually turn into him lecturing me about women, trying to have me watch some manosphere or passport bro video or some other s***.


    He's in too deep. Run

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    WESTSIDE

    Have a close friend who can’t stop bringing up redpill s*** to save his life. Has caused a great strain in our relationship. I’ll try to hoop with him or chill and drink and watch a fight/game and it will eventually turn into him lecturing me about women, trying to have me watch some manosphere or passport bro video or some other s***.

    does he get women ?

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    the introduction of widespread female wage labor oppresses women by capitalism, but also liberates them from men who no longer can extort them for subsistence. Women no longer need men as much as before.

    Also the traditional notions of what defined masculinity in America. Nuclear family, nice house, stable retirement all is becoming harder and harder to obtain for younger generations of men because of the stagnation of wages relative to COL over the past 30+ years.

    the loser stuff/redpill ideology/hyper-masculine is an outgrowth of men needing an outlet to connect pieces as to why men aren’t as “successful” (often these grifters define success by materialistic things) and interpret their situation.

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    WESTSIDE

    Have a close friend who can’t stop bringing up redpill s*** to save his life. Has caused a great strain in our relationship. I’ll try to hoop with him or chill and drink and watch a fight/game and it will eventually turn into him lecturing me about women, trying to have me watch some manosphere or passport bro video or some other s***.

    I had a friend that was slowly falling into this until we sat him down and told him we didnt rock with that

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    Society is really cooked. I honestly don’t think there’s any saving we can do.

    World war then a big restart is what I predict will happen.

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    Optimist

    im talking about middle schoolers

    those middle schoolers grow up to be toxic men

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    afterimage

    the introduction of widespread female wage labor oppresses women by capitalism, but also liberates them from men who no longer can extort them for subsistence. Women no longer need men as much as before.

    Also the traditional notions of what defined masculinity in America. Nuclear family, nice house, stable retirement all is becoming harder and harder to obtain for younger generations of men because of the stagnation of wages relative to COL over the past 30+ years.

    the loser stuff/redpill ideology/hyper-masculine is an outgrowth of men needing an outlet to connect pieces as to why men aren’t as “successful” (often these grifters define success by materialistic things) and interpret their situation.

    both genders need each other this is so silly

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    ThisIsNeverThat

    Society is really cooked. I honestly don’t think there’s any saving we can do.

    World war then a big restart is what I predict will happen.

    Ain't no world war happening but it's pretty bad out there rn

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    CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    Ain't no world war happening but it's pretty bad out there rn

    Why do you say that so surely? We’re one critical decision from China away from a full on World War

  • Nov 13, 2023
    soapmanwun

    those middle schoolers grow up to be toxic men

    im not disagreeing with that, but there are quite literally no alternatives lol

    the only space where men aren’t demonized are in these manosphere spaces…and young middle school aged boys do not want to be in spaces where they are told they are a problem

    until there’s a change somewhere that’s where vulnerable young men will find themselves. it’s a double edged sword that’s only getting sharper as time goes on.

  • Nov 13, 2023
    backflipper

    not me

  • Nov 13, 2023
    afterimage

    the introduction of widespread female wage labor oppresses women by capitalism, but also liberates them from men who no longer can extort them for subsistence. Women no longer need men as much as before.

    Also the traditional notions of what defined masculinity in America. Nuclear family, nice house, stable retirement all is becoming harder and harder to obtain for younger generations of men because of the stagnation of wages relative to COL over the past 30+ years.

    the loser stuff/redpill ideology/hyper-masculine is an outgrowth of men needing an outlet to connect pieces as to why men aren’t as “successful” (often these grifters define success by materialistic things) and interpret their situation.

    Nuclear family, nice house, stable retirement all is becoming harder and harder to obtain for younger generations of men because of the stagnation of wages relative to COL over the past 30+ years.

    its also important to remember that this societal norm is quite recent, only really showing up in post-WW2 New Deal society when white ppl moved to the suburbs away from the urban centers

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    ThisIsNeverThat

    Why do you say that so surely? We’re one critical decision from China away from a full on World War

    Are you referring to the US relations with Taiwan? If so, China is not quite ready to pull the trigger

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    BIGGWAVE

    does he get women ?

    Historically, yes. Especially in college and right after. But had a really bad breakup and hasn’t shaken back mentally.

    He’ll mess with some women from time to time, but it’s a very surface level type of interaction. Probably meet someone at a bar, hookup, talk for a week then not too long after he’s telling me all these women are the same and he’s not interested. S*** is sad.

  • CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    Are you referring to the US relations with Taiwan? If so, China is not quite ready to pull the trigger

    Not quite yet but I honestly think it’s inevitable, especially with the way that Xi speaks about it. One day it will happen

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    A lot of men are going to be left behind and it’s an “issue” that civilized society has no good answer for

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    A lot of men are going to be left behind and it’s an “issue” that civilized society has no good answer for

    behind where?

  • Nov 13, 2023

    Had to stop being friends with one guy (+7 years) because he randomly went down that sigma alpha “grrr women” rabbit hole and would never shut the f*** up about it.

    Awful stuff.

  • Nov 13, 2023

    I b**** about my dad a lot and this is why

    My wife isn't even comfortable going for the holidays. I got an out for Thanksgiving but idk if I can avoid skipping xmas

  • Nov 13, 2023

    Wim Hof 3hrs/day

  • Nov 13, 2023
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    WESTSIDE

    Historically, yes. Especially in college and right after. But had a really bad breakup and hasn’t shaken back mentally.

    He’ll mess with some women from time to time, but it’s a very surface level type of interaction. Probably meet someone at a bar, hookup, talk for a week then not too long after he’s telling me all these women are the same and he’s not interested. S*** is sad.

    I see this pattern in many men after a bad break up. All this negative messaging towards men after something emotionally traumatic like that can really change you.

    I know because I went through the same thing.

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    BIGGWAVE

    behind where?

    They won’t be able to reproduce. Just having a job won’t cut it like it used to because women are rightfully making good money and don’t need men anymore for financial stability.

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    BIGGWAVE

    both genders need each other this is so silly

    Yes you’re not wrong, but a lot of the traditional institutions that bound men and women together are becoming obsolete (or atleast socially humans are saying they are). Financially women can make more money, have better access to reproductive care, can open bank accounts so the material basis for being dependent on a male is not as prevalent.

    Women can choose mates now based off more preferences and not just strictly forced marriages, marriages out of economic necessity. Aka women are now getting to go based off their genuine wants and desires. This isn’t even addressing social media and the increased potential access to socialize and find partners