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    SHAQUILLE

    Kanye isn’t gonna wow you with his lyricism. But what he does have is Charisma, flow, and 90% of the time is gonna come through with some nice content

    If you just read the lyrics to his verse on this, you'd think it was the most cringe s*** ever.

    But the way he phrase s*** like yall fresh to death then I'm deceased makes that verse one of my favorite features that year my g

  • Apr 29, 2020
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    The Retiring Mane

    Kanye has an underrated "voice" as far as hip hop goes my g.

    Which is funny cause pre college dropout that nigga sounded WEIRD (had this low voice thing he was doing) as s*** 'nahmean?

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhvVKdF4Nwk!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOja1RfGUa8!https://youtu.be/bwS0d-lAWUA

    he was def tryna get his Jay Z steelo on during this phase yo.

    his voice really became GOAT level 2009-2013/14

    It had this really cool rasp

  • Apr 29, 2020
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    Htownwolf

    You act like this is some far fetched thing
    Drake has been praised for his songwriting by many

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    lord carter

    his voice really became GOAT level 2009-2013/14

    It had this really cool rasp

    I aint gonna lie I hated the rasp my g.

  • Apr 29, 2020
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    The Retiring Mane

    Between Late Registration to MBDTF son had one of the highest pure rapper peaks my g.

    voice, flow, etc.

    its weird I never really considered him a rapper rapper. Even before I knew about the writers, I can’t put my finger on it. I think cause maybe I put him in that “artist” box cause of the way move with his music. Dark fantasy does have some of his best rapping tho. Power still in rotation, that s*** so beautiful/hard.

  • Apr 29, 2020

    I mean, he was on dark fantasy

  • Apr 29, 2020
    Pulp

    Do we have any confirmation on everyone writing his s*** before like 2015-16 (other than the Rhymefest stuff). His way of writing was unique and recognizable. And Rhymefest afaik acknowledged him writing only his verse as a reference for Jesus Walks.

    If he wrote the stuff from his first 5 albums I'd consider him a top tier MC. His flow and writing impacted a s***ton of rappers. Not a Ye d***rider btw.

    Even if kanye wrote every verse he still wouldnt be top tier.

  • Apr 29, 2020
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    lord carter

    Yeah man just post my avy instead of add to the discussion

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    A Mad Ass Nigga

    Nobody ever considered him a top tier mc. Not even his hardcore stans lol.

    Nah I had someone on here tell me Kanye’s verse on Devil In A New Dress was right on par with Ross verse lmfao

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    A Mad Ass Nigga

    its weird I never really considered him a rapper rapper. Even before I knew about the writers, I can’t put my finger on it. I think cause maybe I put him in that “artist” box cause of the way move with his music. Dark fantasy does have some of his best rapping tho. Power still in rotation, that s*** so beautiful/hard.

    And he's stringent about re-writing power my g.

    That alone puts him up there 'nahmean? (I'll def say top 25)

    Cause at the end of the day he gotta like the s*** that he's saying. And MBDTF sessions interview it was said that he did write but would always take suggestions from his peoples about how this certain bar would sound and vice versa.

    He told Pusha T to redo his verse multiple times.

    You don't just do that without knowing a little something about lyrics.

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    The Retiring Mane

    I aint gonna lie I hated the rasp my g.

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    Kanyes charisma coo and all but that sht kinda played out once the music and verses age. same reason a lot of Wayne's sht dont age well at all. Wayne got a bunch of punchlines or bars that sound trash when you move on from the hype and nostalgia. I dont see how people can criticize sean and not see kanye doing similar s***.

    His delivery and flow arent top tier to me either. I've never seen him ride a beat on an elite level tbh

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    Durkio World

    Kanyes charisma coo and all but that sht kinda played out once the music and verses age. same reason a lot of Wayne's sht dont age well at all. Wayne got a bunch of punchlines or bars that sound trash when you move on from the hype and nostalgia. I dont see how people can criticize sean and not see kanye doing similar s***.

    His delivery and flow arent top tier to me either. I've never seen him ride a beat on an elite level tbh

    because Big Sean has a pretty trash rapper voice my g.

    it's why you could see the obvious influence/writing on Graduation cause Kanye was doing pretty much everything Big Sean did but 1000000000x better.

    The way he did those punchlines on Good Life had Big Sean all over it BUT, Kanye has a better voice.

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    Htownwolf

    Yeah man just post my avy instead of add to the discussion

    drake doesn’t write everything, and has lied about it multiple times

    that’s so much more sus than Ye literally coming out and saying it, crediting niggas left and right (actually known for over crediting)

  • Apr 29, 2020
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    we gotta have the conversation about rapper "voice" cause that can literally make or break an artist sometimes my g.

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    The Retiring Mane

    we gotta have the conversation about rapper "voice" cause that can literally make or break an artist sometimes my g.

    Most important s*** in the game

    said by multiple niggas

  • lord carter

    Most important s*** in the game

    said by multiple niggas

    like rest in heaven to donda but I would NOT want to hear this song in this low voice s*** he was doing pre college dropout my g.

  • Apr 29, 2020
    Durkio World

    Kanyes charisma coo and all but that sht kinda played out once the music and verses age. same reason a lot of Wayne's sht dont age well at all. Wayne got a bunch of punchlines or bars that sound trash when you move on from the hype and nostalgia. I dont see how people can criticize sean and not see kanye doing similar s***.

    His delivery and flow arent top tier to me either. I've never seen him ride a beat on an elite level tbh

    I don’t think he has anything that aged poorly ngl. If he does it’s a small handful of verses

  • Apr 29, 2020

    Violent Crimes two words changed

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    lord carter

    drake doesn’t write everything, and has lied about it multiple times

    that’s so much more sus than Ye literally coming out and saying it, crediting niggas left and right (actually known for over crediting)

    You sound bitter af
    When has drake ever lied about not writing anything lmao

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    has one of the best evened out rapper stat sliders my g.

  • Apr 29, 2020

    Nobody calls kanye a top tier mc
    They might call him a good rapper, which he is

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    Htownwolf

    You sound bitter af
    When has drake ever lied about not writing anything lmao

    Said he wrote all his biggest hits. Two months later original one dance leaks

  • Apr 29, 2020
    jesuisadorable

    Kanye is an amazing rapper

    stay mad