Snowboy

5mo

you know you can get a real job where people pay you if your goal is to "just help people", right? like why not become an EMT, or an NGO worker? why do free labor for your local bloodsucking DNC politicians and charity opportunists?

insertcoolnamehere

5mo

i dont think it invalidates anything.

Most people (not saying you i'm saying in general) throughout history didn't grow up wanting to be a potential martyr. Niggas had lives, goals, and dreams. Every fellow black man and woman and children we lost in the 60s in the struggle didn't wake up that morning thinking that was gonna be they last day.

So it makes sense, when you start to see society collapse and want to exhaust every potential alternative action before "grabbing the tooly" but sooner or later everybody (I'm including myself) has to take a deep look in the mirror and ask exactly how much more can a person take.

that's why 10/7 is so loaded to me, because to me I always think back to that question how much more can a person take before they just f***ing lose it and id takes over and all hell really breaks loose?

WRU

5mo

I dont like these random avis that I literally have never ever seen before anywhere on this website now trying multiple people on their understanding of revolutionary act to bring it to some kind of point they have about voting

Mark Moschino

5mo

you know what thats fine, as long as it helps people then thats ok. call me whatever

Mark Moschino

5mo

i'm not really trying anyone? i'm just asking why we cant vote sometimes, and not other times?

WRU

5mo

yeah bro just curious amirite

Mark Moschino

5mo

i think it's super weird that I'm literally just trying to have a conversation about material change under a f***ed up system and how there's opportunities for change that get lost through super polarizing statements. and i'm getting flamed for reasons i genuinely don't really understand

Mark Moschino

5mo

i think it's super weird that I'm literally just trying to have a conversation about material change under a f***ed up system and how there's opportunities for change that get lost through super polarizing statements. and i'm getting flamed for reasons i genuinely don't really understand

Mark Moschino

5mo

also i feel like you're way overgeneralizing "voting"

Not voting for the president is one thing

Not voting for your local comptroller is a different thing.

Explain to me why not voting in local zoning/elections is useful

Big Tobacco

5mo

you cannot seriously believe a local comptroller means anything lmao

Mark Moschino

5mo

i don't really understand why you're so defensive when you and 2 other posters have spent a page calling me an idiot

Snowboy

5mo

where'd I call you an idiot, now you're just getting defensive for no reason and derailing

Mark Moschino

5mo

not comptroller specifically, but like yeah i wish i voted for a different mayor

Snowboy

5mo

there are not "opportunities for change", their are crises in the imperialist world system and you must be ready to confront them with an organized and militant working class.

I've said this before but reforms in the system do not conform to your desires or result from sheer effort, they are more akin to bribery by the ruling class and typically happen at moments of revolutionary upswing and economic crisis. you've put the cart before the horse, how do you even plan on advocating for people en masse without a mass organization? what is your leverage for achieving reforms within the system? even by your own standards you lack a real strategy, voting doesn't achieve reforms except through popular referendum so you'll have to ditch the politician strategy.

Snowboy

5mo

Milwaukee had 3 socialist mayors. how's Milwaukee doing?

you have to understand why people don't take these ideas seriously when speaking to the masses and how you haven't stumbled upon some secret soup that only you've thought of. people are just interested in different political tactics.

Giordano

5mo

This your king?

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/wireStory/biden-sinwars-death-good-day-world-opportunity-hostage-114903314

Snowboy

5mo

people not participating in America's phony pseudo-democracy for the wealthy is a political statement. its not laziness or apathy, its a wake up call to begin abandoning it for a better system of popular democracy. this can only be accomplished through political revolution.

Lu The Ruler

4mo

Be careful for what you wish for because you just might get it!

Himothee

4mo

It’s not about wishing Trump would do better

It’s about not voting for the candidate that committed a f***ing genocide

Lu The Ruler

4mo

Be careful for what you wish for because you just might get it!

internet buddy

4mo

All power to you. Explain that to the niggas trying to deport you though.

internet buddy

4mo

You don’t get it, Killer Kamala had to be humbled!