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  • Where have u seen her be that warm to anyone

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    kurapika

    What kind of person wakes up in the morning and types that

    good morning european king

  • So now people just lying that no one said Trump was gonna be better.. just because you ain't say it don't mean people weren't because they absolutely were...

  • Himothee

    Also there’s no realistic way Trump can make the genocide 100x worse besides putting boots on the ground, which he obviously isn’t going to do.

    Again this isn’t a defense of him. He will be worse on a domestic front and has already signaled he wants to deport Palestinians or Arabs on student visas out of the country if they speak out against Israel. But that doesn’t mean we gotta vote Biden when he’s actively aiding and abetting a genocide either. Just stating the facts

    reading this first page post from march 15 2024 after 2 weeks of trump

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    i think that this situation/thread perfectly encapsulates the trolley problem and the philosophy on it.

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    americana

    No one thought this

    @Kapers Don't let these guys gaslight you

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    monza sp1 x

    @Kapers Don't let these guys gaslight you

    Your 'proof' is a mentally ill man

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    Trump is destroying America and that's a good thing for Palestine and every other oppressed nation on Earth

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    Gay Ave Stan

    Your 'proof' is a mentally ill man

    Fam come on. There was a lot of people saying it.. I was in here saying Trump would be as bad prob worse and people were arguing with me

    Both parties are responsible for their decades of dedication to the Zionist project... both parties voting hand in hand aid and weapons packages through over past 18 months... to make out one person or one party is singularly bad always felt like intentional dishonesty. Althoughit seems like Trump might amazingly manage to be particularly evil with his recent proposals going where not eveb the most Zionist been before... which tbh is what we should be talking bout...

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    Let me say though i do agree the 'told you so' s*** at people who hated Dems and couldn't vote for them for Gaza war is disgusting so i def understand the reaction to that

    But why I come into.this thread is more towards the Trump supporters who were trying to gaslight folk that he would be better, not the people who genuinely care.

    I do think the people who were celebrating Kamala loss elsewhere were super misguided though, that made no sense to me. I understand why people have a lot of hatred for the Democrats that was so complicit in this. But an L that meant Trump and his people was coming in was always gonna have worse consequences over the next 4 years and probably longer so that was never something to be gloating about and s***.

    Just depressing all around

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    Gay Ave Stan

    Trump is destroying America and that's a good thing for Palestine and every other oppressed nation on Earth

    Personally, I think he’s a wonderful karma to the typical western liberal who is OK with modern imperialism, IMF debt traps, and countless coercive actions of the US on smaller nations

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    rich scouser

    Let me say though i do agree the 'told you so' s*** at people who hated Dems and couldn't vote for them for Gaza war is disgusting so i def understand the reaction to that

    But why I come into.this thread is more towards the Trump supporters who were trying to gaslight folk that he would be better, not the people who genuinely care.

    I do think the people who were celebrating Kamala loss elsewhere were super misguided though, that made no sense to me. I understand why people have a lot of hatred for the Democrats that was so complicit in this. But an L that meant Trump and his people was coming in was always gonna have worse consequences over the next 4 years and probably longer so that was never something to be gloating about and s***.

    Just depressing all around

    Bro, who cares we both know that there’s no tangible difference between a Democrat and Republican when it comes to Palestine

    None of the comments today indicate any real difference between Trump’s approach and that of Democrats the only difference is the way he says things

    Nine months ago, the Democrats establish a plan to have US troops/mercs on the ground in Gaza, while also having a unified UAE/Egypt/ Saudi security force also on the ground after Israel pulled out

    Genuinely tell me what’s the real policy difference here? I can tell you 100% that nothing has changed within the military intelligence community, and even Israeli intelligence themselves understand that moving them into Egypt/Jordan and actually would further destabilize the situation the situation

    It can’t be pick or choose if we’re gonna speak the truth and say that there’s no difference between a democrat and Republican, then the commentary that Trump made today is irrelevant.

    Very little stock should be put into what he said

    Seriously, like does anyone really have to sit here and explain that the Democrats would’ve also done this except without the explicit messaging of what Trump said the underground reality would’ve played out the exact same way

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    Bro, who cares we both know that there’s no tangible difference between a Democrat and Republican when it comes to Palestine

    None of the comments today indicate any real difference between Trump’s approach and that of Democrats the only difference is the way he says things

    Nine months ago, the Democrats establish a plan to have US troops/mercs on the ground in Gaza, while also having a unified UAE/Egypt/ Saudi security force also on the ground after Israel pulled out

    Genuinely tell me what’s the real policy difference here? I can tell you 100% that nothing has changed within the military intelligence community, and even Israeli intelligence themselves understand that moving them into Egypt/Jordan and actually would further destabilize the situation the situation

    It can’t be pick or choose if we’re gonna speak the truth and say that there’s no difference between a democrat and Republican, then the commentary that Trump made today is irrelevant.

    Very little stock should be put into what he said

    Seriously, like does anyone really have to sit here and explain that the Democrats would’ve also done this except without the explicit messaging of what Trump said the underground reality would’ve played out the exact same way

    Fam the past 9 years all ive heard from people is don't take Trump at his word and then hes acted on his word. So I'm sorry but when he calls for ethnic cleansing then i am gonna believe he will be taking it further than anyone else has before. Its crazy to me that this is your responses to thd Potus saying this

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    Bird Boy

    Personally, I think he’s a wonderful karma to the typical western liberal who is OK with modern imperialism, IMF debt traps, and countless coercive actions of the US on smaller nations

    They’re shutting down usaid and dudes in another thread wanna ‘join’ the cia over it toldyouso’s from these people have no meaning whatever

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    Fam the past 9 years all ive heard from people is don't take Trump at his word and then hes acted on his word. So I'm sorry but when he calls for ethnic cleansing then i am gonna believe he will be taking it further than anyone else has before. Its crazy to me that this is your responses to thd Potus saying this

    The Obama admin was 100 times worse on Palestine than the first Trump administration, my guy

    Examine what happened with the Westbank settlements under Obama and all of the Vetos in the security council during his administration

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    Bird Boy

    Personally, I think he’s a wonderful karma to the typical western liberal who is OK with modern imperialism, IMF debt traps, and countless coercive actions of the US on smaller nations

    Lmfaoooo there it is

    Pathetic

  • rich scouser

    Lmfaoooo there it is

    Pathetic

    Yeah, there it is. It’s the passiveness of Americans who want to be complicit in all of this.

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    rich scouser

    Lmfaoooo there it is

    Pathetic

    Please go ahead and tell me someone who’s lost over 40 family members how pathetic I am for my sentiment

    ‏أخلص طيزي

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    Also y’all prob won’t wanna see what happens in the us whether trump carries this out or not

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    Bird Boy

    Please go ahead and tell me someone who’s lost over 40 family members how pathetic I am for my sentiment

    ‏أخلص طيزي

    I don't understand how you can talk about wonderful karma... that makes no sense. I'm sorry for your losses but i don't believe the people directly affected by this will be able to see the president calling for ethnic cleansing of Gaza as wonderful karma for the libs. That seems a very bizzare thing to say. Its depressing af everything about this....

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    rich scouser

    Lmfaoooo there it is

    Pathetic

    The largest settlement expansions started during the Jimmy Carter administration, It was a Jimmy Carter ministration who Greenlet the entire 67 settlement project That directly led to the first intifada

    It was during the Clinton administration that Israelis were given Palestinian taxation, water rights, ‘security’ administration, and legitimization of illegal settlements and their existence was enshrined in the Oslo accords

    It was during said Clinton administration that the largest settlement expansion in terms of rates of lance, seizure and outpost set up took place. Not Raegan, not Bush Sr. — Clinton.

    It was done under the Obama administration where numerous opportunities came for the security council to condemn the settlements and officially pursue a policy of halting their expansion and eventual deconstruction that the Democratic administration chose to veto every single proposal despite widespread support and recommendations EVEN COMING FROM MANH ISRAELIS THEMSELVES

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    rich scouser

    I don't understand how you can talk about wonderful karma... that makes no sense. I'm sorry for your losses but i don't believe the people directly affected by this will be able to see the president calling for ethnic cleansing of Gaza as wonderful karma for the libs. That seems a very bizzare thing to say. Its depressing af everything about this....

    Americans losing their rights after benefiting from a near century of unadulterated, modern imperialism and suffering of the global south is perfect karma and if you want to argue with me, you’re a privileged b****

    Don’t tell me you’re sorry for my family.
    This is the attitude that comes from the consequences of American foreign policy on real people like me like my family and like the millions of Palestinians in exile as refugees abroad and those who suffer over there

    It was a Democratic administration that armed Egyptian soldiers/israeli operatives in 2008 in an attempt to overthrow a democratically elected government in Gaza. Their interference and actions lead to thousands of Palestinians killing each other. I could list you literally f***ing dozens of examples of the worst s*** Democratic administrations have done to Palestinians in comparison to Trump, but you’re gonna sit here and ignore reality and actual history.

    At the end of the day you want to prioritize your own well-being and fine that’s your Prerogative but I don’t care about empty statements of well wishing coming from you and it’s all fake

    Just be transparent

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    Also y’all prob won’t wanna see what happens in the us whether trump carries this out or not

    None of this is going to happen—it’s just political posturing.

    Israeli Zionist intelligence, along with U.S., Egyptian, and Jordanian intelligence agencies, all know that trying to relocate two million people—many of whom include militant groups—into Egypt would be a disaster. Even within Israeli Zionist military and political circles, the idea of mass displacement into Egypt has been floated, but it’s not realistic. Egypt is already unstable, and President Sisi’s government depends heavily on U.S. financial and military aid to stay in power. The U.S. pours billions into Egypt’s security forces, especially its secret police, to keep the country from unraveling. Dumping two million people into that situation, including tens of thousands of militants with existing contacts in Egypt, would create massive unrest.

    Israeli Zionists have historically looked at the Sinai as a possible relocation zone for Palestinians, but Egypt’s economy is already hanging by a thread. The country is dealing with a massive debt crisis, inflation, and high unemployment—taking in two million people would push it over the edge. Security experts have repeatedly warned about militant groups operating in Sinai, especially Wilayat Sinai (the local ISIS affiliate), which regularly attacks Egyptian security forces. Throwing more people into that mix, especially militants who already have networks in Egypt, would almost guarantee chaos. If Egypt collapses into internal conflict, it wouldn’t stop at its borders—the country has a population of over 100 million, and a refugee crisis on that scale would spill into Europe, Canada, and the U.S. Iran and others would see this as an opportunity to further enforce their positioning and axis of resistance. The risk of a coup against Sisi’s government in this scenario is something U.S. and Israeli Zionist intelligence have long been aware of. This is the backstop of why Palestinians haven’t already been displaced into Egypt in mass.

    Jordan was never even a serious consideration Jordan is a long term U.S. and Israeli Zionist ally, with strong military and intelligence ties. The Jordanian security forces, backed by the U.S., Israel, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia, are ruthless in cracking down on political dissent, especially from pro-Palestinian groups. The idea that the U.S. or Israel would push over a million refugees and 50,000 militants into Jordan—a country that has already normalized ties with Israel and serves as a key buffer state—is completely detached from reality. Jordan is already struggling with the economic impact of Syrian refugees, and intelligence reports have consistently pointed out that any further destabilization would be a direct threat to Western interests. This is why Jordan was never part of any serious displacement plan.

    This isn’t just about Trump—Biden and the Democrats have also quietly considered using Egypt as a way to contain Palestinian displacement. U.S. policy in the region has long treated Egypt as a tool for keeping instability in check, but never in a way that would actually push the country to collapse. The difference between Trump’s approach and Biden’s is mostly in how they talk about it. The reality remains the same: U.S. and Israeli Zionist intelligence know this plan isn’t viable, and it isn’t happening.

    Trump’s statements should be seen for what they are—political theater. His advisors, including those in the intelligence community, are almost certainly telling him this plan is a dead end. Even Netanyahu’s body language when addressing the issue made it clear that this isn’t a serious policy. Destabilizing Egypt and Jordan goes against everything American and Israeli Zionist security strategy is built around. This whole discussion is just a distraction, not something that will ever actually happen.

    If you really want to know what the Israeli expansion priorities are you need to take a look at the West Bank, which has fallen out of the news cycle completely

  • when people reject your political party on the basis of not wanting to support a genocide you should reflect on your own politics rather than to mock the person for their demands

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